--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> >
> > > >snip<
> > > > Spiritual Defense can also be defined as the application of non-lethal,
> > non-invasive, and non-physical Distance Influence (DI) – thought technology,
> > which can provide real protection and shielding by screening and blocking
> > harmful influences of a destructive or evil nature. Spiritual Defense 
> > employs
> > DI technology, which is thought form communication between a sender(s) and a
> > receiver (s), whether consciously perceived or not, involving for example 
> > light
> > and sound, prayer and meditation, and collective mental synchronization to
> > augment and help insure security and well-being."
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh, like a darshan meeting with the saints. Light and sound, prayer and
> > meditation...
> > >
> > 
> > Incidentally, a darshan modality that Mother Ann (of the Shakers) as saint 
> > used with pilgrims coming to visit was her voice also.  The sound value of 
> > an intoning voice.  There are people around now who do this too. 
> > 
> > Using voice to help the spiritual subtle neuro-physio system.
> > Mother Ann was also known in her time for the effect of singing her 
> > 'word-less' tunes at people.   Shaker singing and the body of shaker songs 
> > being sung the way we know it now came along after the Mother Ann 
> > foundational era.  
> > 
> > The Boston Camerata as a project has produced a couple of CD's of Shaker 
> > songs.  They are quite nice recordings.  Within the tracks are examples of 
> > a couple of these word-less tunes.  Here is one of the CD's.  None of the 
> > wordless songs are available to sample.  But here is a real nice album cd 
> > recording of shaker songs including some of the 'wordless' songs: 
> > 
> >    http://www.bostoncamerata.com/bccd-simple.html
> >
> 
> Opps. Track 17 is one of those songs. 'Holy Order Song'   The album has some 
> others too for example.
> -Buck
>

This is a good example of someone now (currently) who is adept at using the 
spiritual modality of sound in method to help people with their shakti and the 
subtle system:

http://www.timeportalpubs.com/about.htm

 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes that's the book.  It's a particular book that examines 
> > > > > > > > things the way we would spiritually.  As an academic book it is 
> > > > > > > > kind of unique this way.  It really is quite fabulous.  I found 
> > > > > > > > it on my visit last month to the Shaker museum village of 
> > > > > > > > Pleasant Hill, Ky.   Pleasant Hill Shaker Village is a great 
> > > > > > > > resource of books, diaries, journals for researching 
> > > > > > > > transcendentalist utopian America. 
> > > > > > > > http://www.shakervillageky.org/  I have also visited a number 
> > > > > > > > of other of these kinds of museums looking at other American 
> > > > > > > > Utopian groups like ours here in Fairfield to see how it went 
> > > > > > > > for them.  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > A couple years before Maharishi died I went down to Pleasant 
> > > > > > > > Hill and lived for a while to particularly research the 
> > > > > > > > transition between spiritual founders and following 
> > > > > > > > generations.  I spent a lot of time looking at their founder 
> > > > > > > > Mother Ann in particular and then the Shakti of the group 
> > > > > > > > following after her.  Mother Ann evidently was a saint in the 
> > > > > > > > way we know them.  Would give shaktipat, taught a meditation 
> > > > > > > > (dhyana) as a spiritual practice and sat with folks giving a 
> > > > > > > > darshan.  They formed in to groups(villages) to facilitate this 
> > > > > > > > spiritual practice and became known as Shakers.  We popularly 
> > > > > > > > know them for other things but essentially they were a 
> > > > > > > > mediating group in practice.  After some generations of 
> > > > > > > > succession in busy competition with the outside world to hold 
> > > > > > > > their own they lost their moorings, dropped their structured 
> > > > > > > > meditation time from their daily practice, became more about 
> > > > > > > > doctrine, and the group shakti dwindled out.  Spiritual 
> > > > > > > > life-cycle. 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Viewing these in 'shaktic' or experiential spiritual ways as opposed to 
> > > > 'static' comparative doctrinal ways, 
> > > > as a group the Shaker experience stands a good parallel to things TM.  
> > > > I would wonder that some things possibly could even be learned from 
> > > > their experience if one has eyes to see it.  Learned about the Shaker 
> > > > experience as well as with TM-Raja-ism.  
> > > > 
> > > > For instance, the Shaker version of policy guidelines were called the 
> > > > Millennial law.   There was a sequence to the evolution of their 
> > > > millennial laws over the decades after their foundation era.  From 
> > > > short organizational mission of facilitating spiritual experience 
> > > > initially then towards detail specific as the group got further away 
> > > > from the founder and the foundation era.   Moving from simpler 
> > > > facilitating of shakti to long elaboration of doctrine and guideline.  
> > > > From shorter statement of spiritual mission to a long detailed 
> > > > 'contract' of doctrinal guidelines.  From facilitating experience to 
> > > > preservation of institution by guideline doctrine.  Essentially the 
> > > > guidelines became the teaching doctrine.   In effect their ME became so 
> > > > burdened with 'pitta-vatta' derangement of some that the experiential 
> > > > shakti got squeezed out of it generally; folks dried up and left the 
> > > > group leaving behind only doctrinal tru-believers  as preservationists. 
> > > >  It's a good lesson.
> > > > Evidently the Shakers are not the only group to have this happen to.
> > > > -Buck      
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This excerpt reminds me of when Maharishi was experimenting with 
> > > > > Patanjali in the 1970's and teaching us the Yoga Sutras 'siddhis' 
> > > > > practices with TM:  
> > > > > 
> > > > > "...For many Shakers were experiencing quite unexpected "movements of 
> > > > > the inner Spirit" often overflowing into emotion-charged 
> > > > > manifestations -songs without words, strange languages, prayer 
> > > > > through bodily gesture such as kneeling, ecstatic spontaneous 
> > > > > dancing, and disturbing bodily agitation and trembling.  It is from 
> > > > > this last that their mocking neighbors called them "Shaking Quakers". 
> > > > >  Many other Shakers remained outwardly calm in manner yet welcomed 
> > > > > all these manifestations as the signs of a great inward work." [Of 
> > > > > the later 18th Century]
> > > > > 
> > > > > Alot like scenes on the TM experimental (AEGTC) 'Governor training' 
> > > > > courses around 1976-'77 in Switzerland as we learned the siddhis 
> > > > > practice.  Ru's in spontaneous shaking and some ecstatic barking. 
> > > > > Shakti shouts. Kundalini movement. Meditating.  A spiritual zoo.
> > > > > -Buck in FF
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Here is something written about this kind of thing in the
> > > > > > > > > > > 18th Century.  Nothing new under the sun I guess:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > This is pretty impressive. Where exactly does it come
> > > > > > > > > > from? Who were these people? What subsequently happened
> > > > > > > > > > to this woman and her group?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Just to exercise my higher visionary functions: Ann Lee? 
> > > > > > > > > Shakers?
> > > > > > > > > http://books.google.de/books?id=8NFFknegLWUC&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=Ann+was+the+first+individual+to+experience+the+parousia&source=bl&ots=Ga5vONZcqM&sig=C8Y8puz_Rge_qJltRftFD_6KePw&hl=en&ei=GGRSTbHmKIHtsgat3omRCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Ann%20was%20the%20first%20individual%20to%20experience%20the%20parousia&f=false
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes that's the book.  It's a particular book that examines 
> > > > > > > > things the way we would spiritually.  As an academic book it is 
> > > > > > > > kind of unique this way.  It really is quite fabulous.  I found 
> > > > > > > > it on my visit last month to the Shaker museum village of 
> > > > > > > > Pleasant Hill, Ky.   Pleasant Hill Shaker Village is a great 
> > > > > > > > resource of books, diaries, journals for researching 
> > > > > > > > transcendentalist utopian America. 
> > > > > > > > http://www.shakervillageky.org/  I have also visited a number 
> > > > > > > > of other of these kinds of museums looking at other American 
> > > > > > > > Utopian groups like ours here in Fairfield to see how it went 
> > > > > > > > for them.  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > A couple years before Maharishi died I went down to Pleasant 
> > > > > > > > Hill and lived for a while to particularly research the 
> > > > > > > > transition between spiritual founders and following 
> > > > > > > > generations.  I spent a lot of time looking at their founder 
> > > > > > > > Mother Ann in particular and then the Shakti of the group 
> > > > > > > > following after her.  Mother Ann evidently was a saint in the 
> > > > > > > > way we know them.  Would give shaktipat, taught a meditation 
> > > > > > > > (dhyana) as a spiritual practice and sat with folks giving a 
> > > > > > > > darshan.  They formed in to groups(villages) to facilitate this 
> > > > > > > > spiritual practice and became known as Shakers.  We popularly 
> > > > > > > > know them for other things but essentially they were a 
> > > > > > > > mediating group in practice.  After some generations of 
> > > > > > > > succession in busy competition with the outside world to hold 
> > > > > > > > their own they lost their moorings, dropped their structured 
> > > > > > > > meditation time from their daily practice, became more about 
> > > > > > > > doctrine, and the group shakti dwindled out.  Spiritual 
> > > > > > > > life-cycle. 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Retirement"  was the Shaker word they used for 'meditation' like 
> > > > > > > we would know it. Regular 'retiring' was specifically allowed for 
> > > > > > > or structured in to their work days.  'Retirement' was 
> > > > > > > foundational to their spiritual practice.  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That nice furniture we think of as being trademark of 'Shaker' 
> > > > > > > came about to furnish their bedrooms, meetings, and villages for 
> > > > > > > "retirement".  Their coming together in to villages was to 
> > > > > > > provide/facilitate the common resources and time to have regular 
> > > > > > > "retirement" and group meetings.  Their daily group meditations, 
> > > > > > > as we might see them, they referred to as "Union Meetings".  
> > > > > > > 'Retirement' was the essential salt and flour of their spiritual 
> > > > > > > practice, just like ours.
> > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > >
> > > 
> > > 1845 Millenial Laws:  Section II Orders concerning the Spiritual Worship 
> > > of God, etc
> > > 
> > > "Believers are required by the orders of God, to retire to their rooms in 
> > > silence, for the space of half an hour, and labor for a sense of the 
> > > gospel, before attending meeting.
> > > 2. All should sit erect in straight ranks in retiring time, ... ; and 
> > > none should have any conversation upon anything whatever, neither should 
> > > they sleep nor idly lounge away the time, or leave the room except it be 
> > > very necessary."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Half an hour.  These half hour retirements as spiritual practice catch my 
> > > eye.  That is serious spiritual practice.  Infurther reading, the 
> > > 'retirings' were very much part of the day from early on as a discipline. 
> > >  With extra ones thrown in or called for too at different times before 
> > > meetings.
> > > 
> > > Retirement was particularly practiced for years of a generation or two.  
> > > Evidently that discipline of practice petered out at some time.
> > > -Buck in FF  
> > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ",,,attend to your retirements, meetings and meals, and not let 
> > > > > > trifles hinder you; and when the signal is given, either for 
> > > > > > retiring time or for meals, drop your work, go into the house and 
> > > > > > sit down and retire, and have no loud or unnecessary conversation." 
> > > > > > [1845]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sounds a lot like TM in Fairfield in earlier days through the 
> > > > > > 1980's and the mid-1990's.  People's lives and work was set up to 
> > > > > > attend the meditations and folks could drop what they were doing to 
> > > > > > go as an additional call was made.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > TM is on track with this life-cycle arc of spiritual groups.  
> > > > > > > > In its time Fairfield will be a tourist destination like Amana 
> > > > > > > > or Shakertown or Brook Farm..  Can hear the tour guides in 
> > > > > > > > about 90 years describing the meaning of the architecture, 
> > > > > > > > displaying artifacts like bottles of labeled AyurVedic herbs, 
> > > > > > > > Maharishi honey and other products produced and sold by the 
> > > > > > > > group for their sustenance , Sidha dresses, the crowns they 
> > > > > > > > wore, the Heidelberg press room, see gold embossed 
> > > > > > > > publications, view banners from the group,  and then hear the 
> > > > > > > > interpretation describing what 'went' on in Fairfield.  Then 
> > > > > > > > take the  tours of buildings given by people dressed in 
> > > > > > > > meditator garb.  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Of course the irony of antithesis like at Shakertown is that it 
> > > > > > > > is some local Christain-believing guides having a job who would 
> > > > > > > > be giving the tours.   In time.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -Buck              
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > <edit>
> > > > > > > > > > > "Ann was the first individual to experience the parousia 
> > > > > > > > > > > and so they recognized her to be the unique person to 
> > > > > > > > > > > inaugurate the awareness of the parousia.  It was not 
> > > > > > > > > > > "seeing" in the external sense at all but rather a 
> > > > > > > > > > > transforming consciousness of unitive presence.  The 
> > > > > > > > > > > phrase "she saw in open vision" is often used, open 
> > > > > > > > > > > vision is a knowing not by mind or a seeing not by the 
> > > > > > > > > > > eyes but by a perception at depth from with in; if 
> > > > > > > > > > > reflects the "knowing which is beyond knowledge".  The 
> > > > > > > > > > > "vision" is "open" in the sense that one who now really 
> > > > > > > > > > > sees has been opened within.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > In meeting as she began to speak of her experience, all 
> > > > > > > > > > > those at the meeting began to experience themselves.  
> > > > > > > > > > > They did not merely accept Ann's word for what she had 
> > > > > > > > > > > experienced.  Rather, as she spoke of her experience, 
> > > > > > > > > > > those who listened experienced the same reality for 
> > > > > > > > > > > themselves.  
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Ann inaugurated the consciousness of parousia as the 
> > > > > > > > > > > first one among many to be drawn into the unifying 
> > > > > > > > > > > experience of alive and fully present in-through-with us 
> > > > > > > > > > > all.  She is the first to awaken in experience to what 
> > > > > > > > > > > ultimately all experience.  In experiential history she 
> > > > > > > > > > > ministers this experience to them by bearing witness to 
> > > > > > > > > > > what had happened to her, thereby being the instrument of 
> > > > > > > > > > > that same happening to them.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Ann ministered life to them by the living witness of her 
> > > > > > > > > > > experience; they now experience for themselves and so in 
> > > > > > > > > > > turn enter an ever-expanding ministry of living witness 
> > > > > > > > > > > to others.  This begins the essential process of 
> > > > > > > > > > > revelation spoken of as progressive unfoldment."
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. This is the same thing that SSRS says when people 
> > > > > > > > > > > > have transcendent experiences around him. He says that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > that experience occurs in your consciousness and is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > you. But this does not discount that the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > guru/teacher/lama, etc., could function as a catalyst 
> > > > > > > > > > > > to trigger said experience in you. Without the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > catalyst, no experience. In the same fashion you could 
> > > > > > > > > > > > listen to a piece of music and have a beautiful 
> > > > > > > > > > > > experience. The beauty is in the context of your 
> > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness as the music serves as a catalyst to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > trigger the experience of beauty. Without the music 
> > > > > > > > > > > > "outside" of your consciousness, no "inner" beauty. 
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
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