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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
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> > > > >snip<
> > > > > Spiritual Defense can also be defined as the application of 
> > > > > non-lethal,
> > > non-invasive, and non-physical Distance Influence (DI) – thought 
> > > technology,
> > > which can provide real protection and shielding by screening and blocking
> > > harmful influences of a destructive or evil nature. Spiritual Defense 
> > > employs
> > > DI technology, which is thought form communication between a sender(s) 
> > > and a
> > > receiver (s), whether consciously perceived or not, involving for example 
> > > light
> > > and sound, prayer and meditation, and collective mental synchronization to
> > > augment and help insure security and well-being."
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, like a darshan meeting with the saints. Light and sound, prayer and
> > > meditation...
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Incidentally, a darshan modality that Mother Ann (of the Shakers) as 
> > > saint used with pilgrims coming to visit was her voice also.  The sound 
> > > value of an intoning voice.  There are people around now who do this too. 
> > > 
> > > Using voice to help the spiritual subtle neuro-physio system.
> > > Mother Ann was also known in her time for the effect of singing her 
> > > 'word-less' tunes at people.   Shaker singing and the body of shaker 
> > > songs being sung the way we know it now came along after the Mother Ann 
> > > foundational era.  
> > > 
> > > The Boston Camerata as a project has produced a couple of CD's of Shaker 
> > > songs.  They are quite nice recordings.  Within the tracks are examples 
> > > of a couple of these word-less tunes.  Here is one of the CD's.  None of 
> > > the wordless songs are available to sample.  But here is a real nice 
> > > album cd recording of shaker songs including some of the 'wordless' 
> > > songs: 
> > > 
> > >    http://www.bostoncamerata.com/bccd-simple.html
> > >
> > 
> > Opps. Track 17 is one of those songs. 'Holy Order Song'   The album has 
> > some others too for example.
> > -Buck
> >
> 
> This is a good example of someone now (currently) who is adept at using the 
> spiritual modality of sound in method to help people with their shakti and 
> the subtle system:
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> http://www.timeportalpubs.com/about.htm
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My wife does this work too and also uses the value of sound this way.
There evidently is a reality to it as modality.

https://sites.google.com/site/jenniferhamiltonchakrapracik/home



 
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> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes that's the book.  It's a particular book that examines 
> > > > > > > > > things the way we would spiritually.  As an academic book it 
> > > > > > > > > is kind of unique this way.  It really is quite fabulous.  I 
> > > > > > > > > found it on my visit last month to the Shaker museum village 
> > > > > > > > > of Pleasant Hill, Ky.   Pleasant Hill Shaker Village is a 
> > > > > > > > > great resource of books, diaries, journals for researching 
> > > > > > > > > transcendentalist utopian America. 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.shakervillageky.org/  I have also visited a number 
> > > > > > > > > of other of these kinds of museums looking at other American 
> > > > > > > > > Utopian groups like ours here in Fairfield to see how it went 
> > > > > > > > > for them.  
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > A couple years before Maharishi died I went down to Pleasant 
> > > > > > > > > Hill and lived for a while to particularly research the 
> > > > > > > > > transition between spiritual founders and following 
> > > > > > > > > generations.  I spent a lot of time looking at their founder 
> > > > > > > > > Mother Ann in particular and then the Shakti of the group 
> > > > > > > > > following after her.  Mother Ann evidently was a saint in the 
> > > > > > > > > way we know them.  Would give shaktipat, taught a meditation 
> > > > > > > > > (dhyana) as a spiritual practice and sat with folks giving a 
> > > > > > > > > darshan.  They formed in to groups(villages) to facilitate 
> > > > > > > > > this spiritual practice and became known as Shakers.  We 
> > > > > > > > > popularly know them for other things but essentially they 
> > > > > > > > > were a mediating group in practice.  After some generations 
> > > > > > > > > of succession in busy competition with the outside world to 
> > > > > > > > > hold their own they lost their moorings, dropped their 
> > > > > > > > > structured meditation time from their daily practice, became 
> > > > > > > > > more about doctrine, and the group shakti dwindled out.  
> > > > > > > > > Spiritual life-cycle. 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Viewing these in 'shaktic' or experiential spiritual ways as opposed 
> > > > > to 'static' comparative doctrinal ways, 
> > > > > as a group the Shaker experience stands a good parallel to things TM. 
> > > > >  I would wonder that some things possibly could even be learned from 
> > > > > their experience if one has eyes to see it.  Learned about the Shaker 
> > > > > experience as well as with TM-Raja-ism.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > For instance, the Shaker version of policy guidelines were called the 
> > > > > Millennial law.   There was a sequence to the evolution of their 
> > > > > millennial laws over the decades after their foundation era.  From 
> > > > > short organizational mission of facilitating spiritual experience 
> > > > > initially then towards detail specific as the group got further away 
> > > > > from the founder and the foundation era.   Moving from simpler 
> > > > > facilitating of shakti to long elaboration of doctrine and guideline. 
> > > > >  From shorter statement of spiritual mission to a long detailed 
> > > > > 'contract' of doctrinal guidelines.  From facilitating experience to 
> > > > > preservation of institution by guideline doctrine.  Essentially the 
> > > > > guidelines became the teaching doctrine.   In effect their ME became 
> > > > > so burdened with 'pitta-vatta' derangement of some that the 
> > > > > experiential shakti got squeezed out of it generally; folks dried up 
> > > > > and left the group leaving behind only doctrinal tru-believers  as 
> > > > > preservationists.  It's a good lesson.
> > > > > Evidently the Shakers are not the only group to have this happen to.
> > > > > -Buck      
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This excerpt reminds me of when Maharishi was experimenting with 
> > > > > > Patanjali in the 1970's and teaching us the Yoga Sutras 'siddhis' 
> > > > > > practices with TM:  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "...For many Shakers were experiencing quite unexpected "movements 
> > > > > > of the inner Spirit" often overflowing into emotion-charged 
> > > > > > manifestations -songs without words, strange languages, prayer 
> > > > > > through bodily gesture such as kneeling, ecstatic spontaneous 
> > > > > > dancing, and disturbing bodily agitation and trembling.  It is from 
> > > > > > this last that their mocking neighbors called them "Shaking 
> > > > > > Quakers".  Many other Shakers remained outwardly calm in manner yet 
> > > > > > welcomed all these manifestations as the signs of a great inward 
> > > > > > work." [Of the later 18th Century]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Alot like scenes on the TM experimental (AEGTC) 'Governor training' 
> > > > > > courses around 1976-'77 in Switzerland as we learned the siddhis 
> > > > > > practice.  Ru's in spontaneous shaking and some ecstatic barking. 
> > > > > > Shakti shouts. Kundalini movement. Meditating.  A spiritual zoo.
> > > > > > -Buck in FF
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Here is something written about this kind of thing in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Century.  Nothing new under the sun I guess:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > This is pretty impressive. Where exactly does it come
> > > > > > > > > > > from? Who were these people? What subsequently happened
> > > > > > > > > > > to this woman and her group?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Just to exercise my higher visionary functions: Ann Lee? 
> > > > > > > > > > Shakers?
> > > > > > > > > > http://books.google.de/books?id=8NFFknegLWUC&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=Ann+was+the+first+individual+to+experience+the+parousia&source=bl&ots=Ga5vONZcqM&sig=C8Y8puz_Rge_qJltRftFD_6KePw&hl=en&ei=GGRSTbHmKIHtsgat3omRCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Ann%20was%20the%20first%20individual%20to%20experience%20the%20parousia&f=false
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes that's the book.  It's a particular book that examines 
> > > > > > > > > things the way we would spiritually.  As an academic book it 
> > > > > > > > > is kind of unique this way.  It really is quite fabulous.  I 
> > > > > > > > > found it on my visit last month to the Shaker museum village 
> > > > > > > > > of Pleasant Hill, Ky.   Pleasant Hill Shaker Village is a 
> > > > > > > > > great resource of books, diaries, journals for researching 
> > > > > > > > > transcendentalist utopian America. 
> > > > > > > > > http://www.shakervillageky.org/  I have also visited a number 
> > > > > > > > > of other of these kinds of museums looking at other American 
> > > > > > > > > Utopian groups like ours here in Fairfield to see how it went 
> > > > > > > > > for them.  
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > A couple years before Maharishi died I went down to Pleasant 
> > > > > > > > > Hill and lived for a while to particularly research the 
> > > > > > > > > transition between spiritual founders and following 
> > > > > > > > > generations.  I spent a lot of time looking at their founder 
> > > > > > > > > Mother Ann in particular and then the Shakti of the group 
> > > > > > > > > following after her.  Mother Ann evidently was a saint in the 
> > > > > > > > > way we know them.  Would give shaktipat, taught a meditation 
> > > > > > > > > (dhyana) as a spiritual practice and sat with folks giving a 
> > > > > > > > > darshan.  They formed in to groups(villages) to facilitate 
> > > > > > > > > this spiritual practice and became known as Shakers.  We 
> > > > > > > > > popularly know them for other things but essentially they 
> > > > > > > > > were a mediating group in practice.  After some generations 
> > > > > > > > > of succession in busy competition with the outside world to 
> > > > > > > > > hold their own they lost their moorings, dropped their 
> > > > > > > > > structured meditation time from their daily practice, became 
> > > > > > > > > more about doctrine, and the group shakti dwindled out.  
> > > > > > > > > Spiritual life-cycle. 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > "Retirement"  was the Shaker word they used for 'meditation' 
> > > > > > > > like we would know it. Regular 'retiring' was specifically 
> > > > > > > > allowed for or structured in to their work days.  'Retirement' 
> > > > > > > > was foundational to their spiritual practice.  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > That nice furniture we think of as being trademark of 'Shaker' 
> > > > > > > > came about to furnish their bedrooms, meetings, and villages 
> > > > > > > > for "retirement".  Their coming together in to villages was to 
> > > > > > > > provide/facilitate the common resources and time to have 
> > > > > > > > regular "retirement" and group meetings.  Their daily group 
> > > > > > > > meditations, as we might see them, they referred to as "Union 
> > > > > > > > Meetings".  'Retirement' was the essential salt and flour of 
> > > > > > > > their spiritual practice, just like ours.
> > > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 1845 Millenial Laws:  Section II Orders concerning the Spiritual 
> > > > Worship of God, etc
> > > > 
> > > > "Believers are required by the orders of God, to retire to their rooms 
> > > > in silence, for the space of half an hour, and labor for a sense of the 
> > > > gospel, before attending meeting.
> > > > 2. All should sit erect in straight ranks in retiring time, ... ; and 
> > > > none should have any conversation upon anything whatever, neither 
> > > > should they sleep nor idly lounge away the time, or leave the room 
> > > > except it be very necessary."
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Half an hour.  These half hour retirements as spiritual practice catch 
> > > > my eye.  That is serious spiritual practice.  Infurther reading, the 
> > > > 'retirings' were very much part of the day from early on as a 
> > > > discipline.  With extra ones thrown in or called for too at different 
> > > > times before meetings.
> > > > 
> > > > Retirement was particularly practiced for years of a generation or two. 
> > > >  Evidently that discipline of practice petered out at some time.
> > > > -Buck in FF  
> > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ",,,attend to your retirements, meetings and meals, and not let 
> > > > > > > trifles hinder you; and when the signal is given, either for 
> > > > > > > retiring time or for meals, drop your work, go into the house and 
> > > > > > > sit down and retire, and have no loud or unnecessary 
> > > > > > > conversation." [1845]
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sounds a lot like TM in Fairfield in earlier days through the 
> > > > > > > 1980's and the mid-1990's.  People's lives and work was set up to 
> > > > > > > attend the meditations and folks could drop what they were doing 
> > > > > > > to go as an additional call was made.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > TM is on track with this life-cycle arc of spiritual groups.  
> > > > > > > > > In its time Fairfield will be a tourist destination like 
> > > > > > > > > Amana or Shakertown or Brook Farm..  Can hear the tour guides 
> > > > > > > > > in about 90 years describing the meaning of the architecture, 
> > > > > > > > > displaying artifacts like bottles of labeled AyurVedic herbs, 
> > > > > > > > > Maharishi honey and other products produced and sold by the 
> > > > > > > > > group for their sustenance , Sidha dresses, the crowns they 
> > > > > > > > > wore, the Heidelberg press room, see gold embossed 
> > > > > > > > > publications, view banners from the group,  and then hear the 
> > > > > > > > > interpretation describing what 'went' on in Fairfield.  Then 
> > > > > > > > > take the  tours of buildings given by people dressed in 
> > > > > > > > > meditator garb.  
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Of course the irony of antithesis like at Shakertown is that 
> > > > > > > > > it is some local Christain-believing guides having a job who 
> > > > > > > > > would be giving the tours.   In time.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > -Buck              
> > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > "Ann was the first individual to experience the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > parousia and so they recognized her to be the unique 
> > > > > > > > > > > > person to inaugurate the awareness of the parousia.  It 
> > > > > > > > > > > > was not "seeing" in the external sense at all but 
> > > > > > > > > > > > rather a transforming consciousness of unitive 
> > > > > > > > > > > > presence.  The phrase "she saw in open vision" is often 
> > > > > > > > > > > > used, open vision is a knowing not by mind or a seeing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > not by the eyes but by a perception at depth from with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > in; if reflects the "knowing which is beyond 
> > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge".  The "vision" is "open" in the sense that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > one who now really sees has been opened within.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > In meeting as she began to speak of her experience, all 
> > > > > > > > > > > > those at the meeting began to experience themselves.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > They did not merely accept Ann's word for what she had 
> > > > > > > > > > > > experienced.  Rather, as she spoke of her experience, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > those who listened experienced the same reality for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > themselves.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ann inaugurated the consciousness of parousia as the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > first one among many to be drawn into the unifying 
> > > > > > > > > > > > experience of alive and fully present in-through-with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > us all.  She is the first to awaken in experience to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > what ultimately all experience.  In experiential 
> > > > > > > > > > > > history she ministers this experience to them by 
> > > > > > > > > > > > bearing witness to what had happened to her, thereby 
> > > > > > > > > > > > being the instrument of that same happening to them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ann ministered life to them by the living witness of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > her experience; they now experience for themselves and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > so in turn enter an ever-expanding ministry of living 
> > > > > > > > > > > > witness to others.  This begins the essential process 
> > > > > > > > > > > > of revelation spoken of as progressive unfoldment."
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. This is the same thing that SSRS says when 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people have transcendent experiences around him. He 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > says that that experience occurs in your 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness and is you. But this does not discount 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that the guru/teacher/lama, etc., could function as a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > catalyst to trigger said experience in you. Without 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the catalyst, no experience. In the same fashion you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > could listen to a piece of music and have a beautiful 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. The beauty is in the context of your 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > consciousness as the music serves as a catalyst to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > trigger the experience of beauty. Without the music 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "outside" of your consciousness, no "inner" beauty. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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