On Feb 20, 2011, at 9:54 AM, blusc0ut wrote:

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote:
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>> On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
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>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I learned mantra-yoga from others after TM, they taught that 
>>> ajapa-japa: effortless constant "non-repetition" mantra repetition 24/7 was 
>>> the goal of mantra yoga. Really a fine, constant stream of 
>>> mantra-as-awareness where it is never lost, never forgotten.
>>> 
>>> In other words; no transcendence.
>>> Thought so.
>> 
>> 
>> Actually full transcendence, not stuck in a laya (TM) and merely 
>> transcending part of the mind. TM would be kind of an entry level practice 
>> prior to mastery of ajapa-japa. It's simply a level of practice not taught 
>> in the TM Org.
>> 
> Maharishi quite clearly expressed this himself, when he said that the normal 
> transcending in TM is hazy, not the real and final transcending. 

He actually said that? Can you recall a source?

> 
> Quite frankly I suspect that this is the reason why the movement is 
> discontinued - at least no expansion is envisioned. Because with the present 
> material he had, the people with the concepts he created, could not go much 
> further.

I've often felt the same thing. I thought there could be great promise in 
marrying "Maharishi Vedic Science", which is a college level expansion, with 
practices of yoga and Vedanta.

Perhaps it is SSRS and AoL that is actually expanding it for this lineage?

> 
> It's like this example in the Divine Plan, where the reconstruction team 
> finshes only one quarter of the street, and continues next time with another 
> section. He didn't say this for nothing.

Very interesting.

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