--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote:
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> 
> On Feb 20, 2011, at 9:54 AM, blusc0ut wrote:
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> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> >> 
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> When I learned mantra-yoga from others after TM, they taught that 
> >>> ajapa-japa: effortless constant "non-repetition" mantra repetition 24/7 
> >>> was the goal of mantra yoga. Really a fine, constant stream of 
> >>> mantra-as-awareness where it is never lost, never forgotten.
> >>> 
> >>> In other words; no transcendence.
> >>> Thought so.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Actually full transcendence, not stuck in a laya (TM) and merely 
> >> transcending part of the mind. TM would be kind of an entry level practice 
> >> prior to mastery of ajapa-japa. It's simply a level of practice not taught 
> >> in the TM Org.
> >> 
> > Maharishi quite clearly expressed this himself, when he said that the 
> > normal transcending in TM is hazy, not the real and final transcending. 
> 
> He actually said that? Can you recall a source?

It's all on video tape seen at an international course. The topic was the 
transition to CC, with a final BIG transcendence. He said that it wouldn't 
sound well if we call it hazy transcendental meditation. I have it only from 
memory, but these tapes weren't so exotic, probably quite a few people must 
have seen it. Maybe it was the 'spiritual development' course, but I'm not sure 
anymore.

> > 
> > Quite frankly I suspect that this is the reason why the movement is 
> > discontinued - at least no expansion is envisioned. Because with the 
> > present material he had, the people with the concepts he created, could not 
> > go much further.
> 
> I've often felt the same thing. I thought there could be great promise in 
> marrying "Maharishi Vedic Science", which is a college level expansion, with 
> practices of yoga and Vedanta.
> 
> Perhaps it is SSRS and AoL that is actually expanding it for this lineage?
> 
> > 
> > It's like this example in the Divine Plan, where the reconstruction team 
> > finshes only one quarter of the street, and continues next time with 
> > another section. He didn't say this for nothing.
> 
> Very interesting.
>


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