--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@...> wrote:
>
> Damn this guy must have been powerful. I think it's fair to
> say he made one hell of an impression on you. And you were
> from a family of yogis. How do you make that wrong turn?
>
And a scientist to boot remember! I've expressed my curiosity
about that, but have not been rewarded for my trouble. I
suppose it's one of those "if I tell you I'll have to kill
you" kind of things.
Buddhist "scientist" perhaps? "Post-modern" scientist perhaps?
Not that it matters of course.
Hey, anyone watch the Masters finish? You don't see much
discussion of sport hereabouts. Why is that? Never mind
"Zen and the art of archery" that final nine holes had
lots of "spiritual"/consciousness challenges for the
participants. Tiger battling his demons(grumpily but
successfully); Poor old Mcilroy loosing it big time;
The newbie young dude getting "in the zone" down the
final four to win. Magnificent!
How can anyone do that kind of thing without being
some sort of "master of consciousness"?
And yet... All that self-knowledge that's required, the
self-control, the discipline, the heightened intuition,
the 'equanimity in success and failure' (Mcilroy's
going to need that!) - what does all that development
of consciousness deliver? Any "enlightenment"?
Alas the sport of Golf, and, it has to be said, pro golfers
as a breed, have this association with the naff, the dull, the
boring and the shallow. Actually that seems hardly fair
of two of my personal favourites - the cigar-chomping Jimenez
and the rather portly Angel Cabrera ("El Pato" - "The Duck").
Nevertheless it's fair to say that golfers are considered more
boring than your average athlete.
So, why doesn't the extraordinary mental and physical
discipline of Golf, at least comparable to the practice
of most of the great yogis here on FFL and elsewhere,
why doesn't that practice produce more "enlightenment"?
I saw an explanation on these lines: "the biggest reason
that today's golfers are boring is that golf has always
attracted people who can tolerate quiet and solitude and
are detail-oriented and perfectionistic. To be really good
at golf, it helps to have total control of your emotions,
or just have no emotions at all. It's just the way the game
is, and the really good players who win tournaments will tend
to be the ones who are kind of boring to talk to."
Would SBS have been a good golfer?
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> >
> > >> In my case, it specifically refers to the fact that he was
> > >> directly responsible for encouraging people to take an ayurvedic
> > >> approach to life threatening diseases, and then these same people
> > >> died because of that "enlightened" advice.
> > >
> > > Vaj, do you really believe this makes MMY "guilty" of
> > > something? What, specifically? Giving dumb advice?
> >
> > - Giving medical advice without a license, resulting in death. And
> > then sometimes collecting the money owed from these failed,
> > overpriced Ayurvedic interventions from the deceased greaving
> families.
> >
> > - psychological and neurological damage from over-meditation and
> > unregulated meditation practice. This has been talked of repeatedly
> > and in considerable detail here before: from Saraswati yogins who've
> > diagnosed Sidhas with terrible meditational diseases (yes, there are
> > classes of meditational disorders) and the "Merv wave" which resulted
> > in a huge influx of whigged out TMers to psychiatric hospitals (e.g.
> > New York City), are just two examples that come to mind.
> >
> > > Were these people forcibly kept from seeing doctors?
> > > Or was it their choice on what advice to take or not take?
> > > It doesn't take a genius to figure out that some
> > > crappy-looking concoction made from cow dung
> > > (amongst other things) probably won't cure any
> > > life-threatening illnesses. Or any other kind.
> > > I took one look at that junk and said, "Forget it."
> > > The people who took such "advice" were still
> > > responsible for their own decisions.
> >
> > He was looked at as a wise, all-knowing, "enlightened" figure. Little
> > did people know that once the giggling once slipped off the stage, he
> > was screwing young students and switched into a gruff businessman. It
> > was all an act.
> >
> > Nor did many know he wasn't the enlightened figure he presented
> > himself as. He was not authorized by his own teacher (quite the
> > opposite) and his own teachings are different from those taught by
> > his teacher. Indeed M's teachings are often in direct conflict with
> > Swami Brahmananda's teachings. The TM puja is actually derived from a
> > scholar/student of Guru Dev's poetry, which SBS told Mahesh to
> destroy.
> >
> > He did not, but instead repurposed it.
> >
>
