-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@...> wrote:
> Good advice but he can´t. > For him, Rick, Curtis, Barry et al. it´s in their blood. Their fear of > someone actually having achieved enlightenment, not to mention the status of > an Avatar is total. > > It´s probably their biggest paranoia in life to one day wake up to be > confronted with the simple fact that they wasted their time while others > became free. > I was surprised to see you include Rick in that list Nabby. I mean the guy created a massive project devoted to giving a voice to people who claim to have achieved a higher state. I can't think of anybody less afraid of the idea that someone achieved "enlightenment". Maybe your beef is that Rick has also presented information that may lead a person to conclude that with or without any higher states, guys like Maharishi can do disreputable things. Is it the tarnishing of any aspect of the perfection persona that you object to? As far as I go (I'll bet Barry will speak for himself) I don't see any evidence that anyone is becoming "free". Quite the opposite. It seems to me that your lack of ability to even acknowledge obvious facts about these guys, (like Sai's Mr. Magic Show right out of the box) leads me to believe that your ability to separate fact from fantasy is highly impaired. You are on equal footing with Christians who claim that they are saved and you and me are not. Now the wasting time aspect is interesting. I can't say that you are wasting you time pursuing ideas and beliefs that obviously give you a lot of happiness. I sincerely believe you are misguided, but hell, we all make our choices of what to pay attention to and what to ignore in life. But I am no more afraid of making a mistake not following your bread crumbs than you are about rejecting the Christians who believe as sincerely as you do that you are dammed to an eternity in hell. My freedom, and what I had been pursuing under the umbrella name of "enlightenment", came when I dropped the beliefs you hold so dear. It allowed me to find my self in the world, what I used to call dharma. And the joy it has given me is complete. It was exactly what I had been looking for all along. So I can be happy for you that you found what makes you happy. Can you do the same for me? None of us got an owner's manual for this life. We are all pilgrims finding our way. If I met you in person and clocked your beliefs you would probably never know that I am skeptical about those beliefs. Interacting on a board like this makes the usual barriers of respect between people harder. That is a plus and a minus. In fact in person in a social setting I would love to wind you up and get you talking about your beliefs. They fascinate me. And then you would tool off believing that you had made another convert, and I could go on interviewing another cellmate in the human zoo. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" <willytex@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba > > > > was a pedophile fraud... > > > > > > nablusoss1008: > > > Is that so? Where is that "abundant evidence"? > > > > > There is no evidence and there are no charges in > > Indian courts against Sai Baba. And, since Baba > > is probably dead, there's no chance for a > > cross-examination, so there's no case, just rumors, > > just like Joe posted about MMY. > > > > So, maybe Joe would like to post some evidence, or > > keep his big pie hole shut about other people's > > private sex life, or lack thereof. > > > Good advice but he can´t. > For him, Rick, Curtis, Barry et al. it´s in their blood. Their fear of > someone actually having achieved enlightenment, not to mention the status of > an Avatar is total. > > It´s probably their biggest paranoia in life to one day wake up to be > confronted with the simple fact that they wasted their time while others > became free. >
