"...when you die the anguish can be greater than the stings of thousands of scorpions."
~~ Guru Dev [MMY's teacher, Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati] This teaching [extended below] from Guru Dev is likely where Maharishi got the idea that death [separation from the body upon its death] for the 'unenlightened' is extremely painful. While the idea is promulgated by a few in some of the the eastern traditions, I have been unsuccessful in locating any specific authenticated and/or generally accepted authoritative scripture that specifically states it. Further, in the currently extensively available near death experience NDE research and its subsequently narrated contact with so-called dead humans in the spirit worlds, there IS frequent mention of an afterlife review of one's lifetime which can be painful in some respects - but no descriptions of the pain of the actual separation from the body such as described by Guru Dev or MMY. Making the mistake of being worldly/transmigrated then you have to fall again and again. In taking birth there is suffering; much more suffering there is at the time of dying. In the Shastras it is said that when you die the anguish can be greater than the stings of thousands of scorpions. If one scorpion stings it is torment to endure the pain. If thousands of scorpions sting then guess what may be the torment of the period of demise. The pains of birth/death are additional to those of our lifetimes, which are without end. Without Ishwar (God) it is impossible to become released from this. Making the mistake of being worldly/transmigrated then you have to fall again and again. You should argue against desires that are impure and afterwards should have only one strong desire for getting God. You will not progress until this desire has become stronger than any other. [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 10 of 108] <http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/UA_Hindi.htm#kaNa_10> >From the: 108 Discourses of Guru Dev, Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati Available here: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm <http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" <wgm4u@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > RESPONSE: Transcending in TM, does it mean the actual individual flesh and bones human being stops existing? What possible relevance does transcending in TM have to do with dying > > Transcending is 'conscious' dying, though the body still retains its vivifying principles (pranas) allowing the soul (jiva) to re-enter it. > > In final death the 'silver cord' is snapped, severing the portal of prana resulting in death. In transcending the silver cord remains in tact. > > St. Paul said, "I die daily", even in sleep we actually die, temporarily (not consciously). >