Everyone leaves here, even Maharishi, but he left so much behind that it can 
occupy you for a long time if you like. Also, if you want a relationship with 
him, talk to him. After all, if you can miss him, you know where he is.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote:
> >
> > "MMY: When an ordinary man leaves his body it's a very great pain. When a 
> > realized man leaves the body it's the experience of greatest 
> > happiness-bliss.
> > 
> > maskedzebra: Wrong. Maharishi has no direct or verifiable knowledge of 
> > this."
> > 
> > Yet another opinion:
> >  
> > Hi maskedzebra (I am assuming Grevy's...), Direct knowledge and verifiable 
> > knowledge are two different things. So Maharishi, or anyone else, could 
> > have had direct knowledge of leaving his physical body, and describing it 
> > so, but it is unverifiable, so we have a choice to believe it or not, 
> > possibly based on our own direct and unverifiable experiences.
> > 
> > To reject it out of hand because it is not verifiable is an unwise thing to 
> > do. On the one hand, you have definitively solved "the problem" by now 
> > creating a story from your own experiences that negates Maharishi's. On the 
> > other hand, you are giving yourself no choice but to accept your story over 
> > his, closing off the avenue of exploration regarding a possible association 
> > between TM and bodily death.
> > 
> > Unfortunately this is the danger that comes from examining relics, whether 
> > in writing or otherwise. We are presented with this succinct, meaningful, 
> > and very limited quote of Maharishi's from 1968, without any context as to 
> > why he said it, or when, or about what. Certainly no opportunity for a 
> > follow up question. 
> > 
> > We then create an absolute of it, and create all of these ideas and 
> > associations, like looking through a pin hole and imagining the universe. 
> > 
> > Experience can never be defeated by logic, only enriched through subsequent 
> > experience. Perhaps a useful corollary to his words about TM and dropping 
> > the body is that other well known phrase of his, "Take it easy, take it as 
> > it comes". 
> 
> 
> That's why I love you Jim, you are wise, and unlike Rory, you speak a 
> language one can understand :-)
> 
> I agree on your point of knowledge taken out of context. Perhaps Maharishi 
> made a point in saying something. But He never said anything out of the blue. 
> It had a context to a question from the audiance, perhaps hours earlier, or 
> an experience someone just had or was about to have. Sometimes He gave voice 
> to a particular situation that was about to happen 20 - 30 years later 
> regarding the USA, Norway, Denmark or Kenya. 
> 
> There is that sorrow in not being there with Him anymore, at least not in the 
> same way as before. But there is also a joy in thinking "We will meet again". 
> That is, if He so decides !
> 
> Only first one must be born... argh !
>


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