Hi Denise - I think they were all out of plain "whynotnow"s when I chose my alias, so I added the seven. I am glad you appreciated my plain as the nose on your face logic. I remember talking with my wife when we first got together about direct spiritual progress vs. through an intermediary. We each recalled to the other our moment of fatal doubt as children regarding religion, in both cases, Christianity:
Hers came when she heard a priest say that his role was as a go-between between people and God. Even as a child she didn't buy it. I recall while in confirmation classes for my church at the time, the priest said there are some mysteries we will never know. I was ten years old, but I remember feeling frustrated at hearing this and thinking to myself, "I'm going to keep looking". Teachers are great for pointing things out to people - they oughta be, there are enough of them! But ultimately freedom means freedom from even the greatest teacher ever, to be rediscovered within. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans <dmevans365@...> wrote: > > Thank you for posting this whynotnow7. Is there a significance to the number > 7 btw? Â Having read this, I feel relieved and for some reason, less > guilt-ridden. > > > ________________________________ > From: whynotnow7 <whynotnow7@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:26 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Persistence Of Woo Woo > > > Â > "Actually, I don't have feelings for Doritos one way or > another, having given them up years ago." > > So, you DID have "feelings" for Doritos before you gave them up? How do you > feel about, say, *Lay's* potato chips, or *Cheetos*? Hmmmm? > > Seriously, I think the thing that blows your mind about having self-realized > people in your company here on FFL, is that you are used to the arm's-length > specialness of a teacher, who made it abundantly clear that they had > something, and you didn't. They had it, but not you. So you project this > notion on the liberated souls here, because that is the only model you have > experienced before this. > > But, we're different from the spiritual teachers of the past. First, *we are > not teachers*, nor pretending to be - at least not any of the free souls who > show up here on FFL. We aren't asking for anything - certainly not sex or > money, or even agreement. So there is no attempt to create any kind of a > boundary between us and anyone else. Just the opposite. > > Of course, once the soul is free, it can go anyplace, do anything, think > anything, say anything, so it is probably likely that if a liberated soul is > on here, they will speak freely about anything they wish to speak about. > Nothing to sell. Not above or below anyone else. > > Yet, when the subject of self-realization comes up, it is anyone's > prerogative to say what they like about it. You certainly do - all the time. > I enjoy discussing it also. > > But that doesn't mean you have to think I know more than you do, or are to be > treated specially, or resented for my perceived status; all that teacher > shit. Ravi, Rory and I are not here to do anything but express ourselves. > > You seem to have this *big* chip on your shoulder about anyone who dares > discuss the ordinary experiences of enlightenment. And I honestly think it is > due to some deep resentment you lug around regarding the way the teachers you > studied with treated you. "They had it, and I didn't" - like a template you > now carry with you, to protect yourself, so that any expression of > enlightenment, of a freed soul, and you are on guard, ready for the challenge > in your head and heart. > > But its just a dream. Self realization is real, made for normal people. No > one has to be special anymore to get here. Don't even have to follow a > teacher - that's an old model, and I suggest you dump it, and recognize free > souls and yourself for who you are - free. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > 35. Indians. > > > > > > > > 36. Vedic Gods > > > > > > 37. Masala Doritos > > > > Actually, I don't have feelings for Doritos one way or > > another, having given them up years ago. But I am amused > > at how easy it is to push people's buttons, even *after* > > telling them that's what I'm trying to do. > > > > What's most fascinating is to watch the three "enlightened" > > guys continue to obsess on me, post after post after post. > > Aren't they supposed to be all "line on water" or something? > > And aren't they supposed to have developed enough "creative > > intelligence" to have figured out that the whole *point* of > > my "A Tale Of Four 'Enlightened' People" post was TO push > > their buttons and get them to obsess? That and get to Judy > > to post out early, of course, calling the same descriptions > > of their behavior that they agreed with lies. Like shooting > > fish in a barrel. :-) > > >
