On Dec 9, 2011, at 8:10 PM, emptybill wrote: > Empty: Those stages of subtly are common stages discussed in Tantric Deity > yoga and in Kashmiri Trika Shaiva teachings. > > Vag: They're also used in the Shankaracharya tradition, which uses the > approach of tantra, leading to nondual contemplation. This is the > path of SBS > > ME: This is not Shankara's Kevala Vedanta but the yogic advaita > (post-Vidyaranya) which contradicts Shankara in many ways. A mix of Tantric > and Puranic worship is standard in most Hinduism. > Billy Bob, get dat toothpick outta yo' brain. Get some experience, den get back to us.
> Vag: The bottom line is, if the bindu is not pierced and the ajna is not > bridged, the road to samadhi and full "transcendence" can never occur. > > ME: SSRS told me that transcending in meditation (TM-Sahaj) is crossing the > tri-veni. That is why the Ajña is called the inner tri-veni or the confluence > of the three principle nadi-s. Again, another awakened teacher contradicts > your assertions. > > Billy Bub: Shree Ravi was just one of Mahesh's boyz. His lineage is dee M-sters: it don't exist. Pleez don't hypervent on meez. Capiche? > Empty: You purposely left out the conclusions of Svami Lakshman Joo, the last > Trika guru from Kashmir, a friend of MMY. He fully endorsed the transcending > process of TM. In fact, MMY got some of his understanding from SKJ. > > Vag: He may or may not have recognized it. But I doubt he would have > recognized it as any more than a preliminary. > > ME: This kind of dismissal of Swami Lakshman Joo clearly demonstrates your > selective polemic and wonton editing without regard for his actual > statements. SRSS and SLJ agree with MMY. You do not and thus you strike out. > > Try staying with Dzogchen. You lack the objectivity to discuss TM or MMY. > > Bub: the criticism against moi ist becuz I'm too objective. Where yu been?
