--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" <futur.musik@> wrote: > > > > Based on your reply and some other "evidence" - lol, I am > > beginning to think Sistahs generally awaken more quietly than > > Dudes? Probably related to your direct link to the creation > > process, aka babies, and our making a bigger deal out of any > > analogues to that we can find. :-) > > Well, I wasn't going to mention it, but... ;-)
** LOL > One is either pregnant or not pregnant, but once one > *becomes* pregnant, it does take awhile for the > pregnancy to bear fruit, as it were. Perhaps for men > it's more like being born. > > I've said here before that my own progress, while > lacking flashy experiences and distinct transitions, > has seemed to be one of gradually increasing > transparency. That's why your two-way mirror metaphor > appealed to me: it's as if I'm increasingly able to > see through the one-way side of the mirror. > ** Its interesting - because my experience of waking up was much more dramatic, literally like giving birth to myself. There has been and continues to be certainly mucho integration after the fact, however the transition itself was more abrupt than I suppose it may be for a woman. I have heard about the gradual awakening, which is more my wife's style, and couldn't understand it, until I had gained some distance from my own initial Sunset Boulevard experience. Yes, the ability to see right through others is gained; clarity, what a concept. However, by seeing the now obvious, I have learned that it never gives me the right to state such a thing about someone else, unless it is with the other's permission. Funny how that works. I worked out the power/responsibility direct relationship awhile ago, and am learning that it scales... > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" <futur.musik@> wrote: > > > > > > > > yeah it is an all or nothing scenario. No one is ever a little bit > > > > awake, just as no one is a little bit pregnant. Once the curtain goes > > > > up, or falls down, the reality experienced from that moment on is as > > > > different from the previously ego based justification, as day is from > > > > night. > > > > > > > > Even though I might have sensory experiences outside my ordinary > > > > spectrum as a result of meditation, they are not really spiritual > > > > experiences, because the ego will always see them in terms of > > > > itself. As long as the ego is running the show, there is no > > > > chance of comprehending a spiritual existence. It is like being > > > > on the wrong side of a two way mirror. > > > > > > Oh, that's a great metaphor! > > > > > >