--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "futur.musik" <futur.musik@> wrote: > <snip> > > > > So if someone appears dishonest, or contrary or fearful to us, > > > > it is merely a difference in awareness, and no deliberate > > > > attempt at deception or obfuscation. > > > > > > I don't think I buy that with regard to honesty. Surely > > > differences in awareness account for whether a person > > > believes there is *justification* for saying something > > > they know to be false, but you really can't make much > > > of a case that nobody ever attempts to deceive others. > > > > So true: > > > > Judy:(In a post where she repeatedly accused me of being > > unethical!) > > > > The only ploy Curtis has to > > > rebut this uncomfortable fact is the claim, which he's > > > made in other posts, that I brainwashed all of them into > > > concurring with me, > > > > > Definitely more of a consciously lying thing than just a > > difference in awareness. > > Right. I think you were consciously attempting to deceive > and believed it was justified (just as Barry does when *he* > attempts to perpetrate that deception): > > "I agree that Judy has set the agenda for this angle and I > have to give credit for her forceful personality that so > many have taken up this perspective. (And yes I know it is > possible that everyone just came to this conclusion > independently, but I don't find this as likely.)" > > That's Curtis, responding to a post in which Barry said: > > *No one else* ever had > > any doubts about Vaj's TM "pedigree" until she started > > her "Gotta find a way to demonize Vaj so no one will > > believe him when he makes valid points" campaign. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302040
Well I think it is big of you to cop to your bulls.... especially in light of your post about how this would be a better place with less deception. As you have proven with this quote, your statement that I had accused you of "brainwashing" anyone was absurdly false and appreciate your coming clean providing the evidence for me. So the question is, why would you make such an absurd claim knowing that that actual quotes would come out eventually? Can you actually read the quote you gave, and state that it is proof of your statement that I have claimed that you brainwashed people here? Personally I believe you were trying to make your writing more colorful through exaggeration and I can relate to that because I do that myself. The thing is you can't have it both ways. You can't give other people shit for doing exactly what you do. Calling my perception of your influence over some people here brainwashing actually is more entertaining. It is a re-frame that makes my point seem silly. It also relates to Robin's charge, which you seem to share that I take someone's writing into my own context. I believe that is what we all do here and believe that charge is unfair, especially in light of this example. >
