Sorry to hear of your stroke, Buck, glad to know that you came out on the other 
side. I would be interested to hear how your experiences with that relate to 
your concepts re awakening. 

You are obviously not in a position to speak knowledgeably about my life, 
however. 

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > But I don't think any term like enlightenment does anything but cause 
> > > confusion. Maharishi's use of the term and his many variations of its 
> > > characteristics and methods of attaining it did more to obfuscate than 
> > > illuminate (in my opinion). In contrast, I find lots to recommend in Jill 
> > > Bolte Taylor's description of her experiences, which regardless of the 
> > > etiology, seem both valuable and realizable.
> > 
> > I too like Jill Bolte Taylor's insights because it is kept simple and 
> > clear.  If I were in a contrary mood, I might ask if we have to destroy 
> > something to get that experience.  And not just by a stroke, but my 
> > modifying how the brain functions.  I don't think so, but the question is 
> > reasonable. One reason I think that these awakened states are a good thing 
> > is when I think back to the sense of unity and light that seemed to 
> > permeate my childhood years, I think that was really good and that was and 
> > is a flavor of awakening.  I do think you are right that all these concepts 
> > of enlightenment can just cloud the waters, create misconceptions and lead 
> > people to intensely look in all sorts of directions and buy all sorts of 
> > stuff - and miss the point.  Personally, I find it a challenge to drop the 
> > whole MMY rubric.  Guess that' one reason I can get hung up on the brain 
> > functioning.
> > >
> 
> I had the exact same experiences as her, same scenario and outcome.  Big 
> time.  It was extremely enlightening in that it was illuminating but I would 
> not just wish a stroke on anyone for all the possibilities of how it can go 
> to push the energy centers of the faculties around.  Fortunately we both got 
> enough of a whole back working that we can live on pretty well and even talk 
> about it.  But the perspective was illuminating spiritually along the way.  
> 
> However, en lieu of having a stroke there is certainly spiritual practice 
> that can be done if one has the discipline to do it.  I'd recommend pursuing 
> that also because now the science is showing that it (spiritual practice) 
> indeed does change and enhance how a brain can work.  An aware person of 
> modern spirituality and science certainly can sit up and have the experience. 
>  If only by the science, people should take the time to come to meditation 
> and not just talk or just write about it as an idea. Take the time in the 
> practice.  It is different than surfing.
> 
> -Buck 
> 
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> > > http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html
> > >  
> > > 
> > > ***
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