--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" <anitaoaks4u@...> wrote:

> There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they made 
> that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or previous 
> ones, it's that simple.

I always wonder when I hear this argument if it is in fact a revelation that 
the writer made an active choice on their sexual orientation. I figure you are 
probably not gay so I am not going there. But I am curious about this concept 
of choice because my sexuality did not emerge with any element of that.  The 
"magic" was held by the girls for me.  And for my gay cousin it was in boys for 
him at the same early age.  Ignoring the past life choices angle which is too 
far fetched to address, sexual attraction is not a choice, it is a much deeper 
urge.

Was it a choice for you?

> 
> One will naturally fall into harmony with Natural Law by practicing 
> Religious/Spiritual principles like meditation and scripture. We need to 
> learn the lessons of the past or we are forced to repeat them, as you well 
> know.

They have both shown the same dismal record shifting people out of gayness as 
they have had making people better in any noticeable way.  Part of the problem 
is all those silks and robes, I mean, if you are trying to keep people from 
being more gay you might want to tighten up on butchness of the 
spiritual/religious wardrobe a bit.  







>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" <anitaoaks4u@> wrote:
> > 
> > > Like duh...could you elaborate?, I think the
> > > Rauch has blown his wad, but there may be other good rebuttals..
> > >
> > Maybe if you asked without such an agenda behind it, you could have
> > gotten a response.  I would have liked to hear what Raunchy had to say.
> > 
> > Let me take a shot at it.  We know that everyone one of us has a sex
> > drive, that needs to be satisfied.  And if your attraction is towards
> > the same sex, then I guess that is how you are going to go about
> > satisfying it.
> > 
> > I gather that your objection to this is that one is proscribed from
> > doing so by the Bible.  But maybe one is not so much the religious type.
> > Or perhaps more likely, ones sex drive trumps a religous proscription. 
> > So, you are faced with trading one dysfunction for another.
> > 
> > Your solution, I gather, is some sort of therapy to correct the "mixup",
> > with a religious dicatate as a backdrop.  From what I hear, that doesn't
> > seem to work in most cases.
> > 
> > I will say that the whole process seems to work better, or at least more
> > easily, (see naturally) between a man and women, but work arounds are
> > pretty easy.
> > 
> > I remember it was somewhat a mild shock when a prominient interior
> > decorator was giving us a tour of his condominium, and showed us the
> > elaborate bedroom he shared with Vince, his partner.  It just sort of
> > took me aback,  not in judgemental way, but more in a rather humurous
> > way.  I mean, this was one well furnished and delicately appointed
> > bedroom.
> 
> There is NO such thing as GAY, God did not create men OR woman GAY, they made 
> that choice themselves at some point in the past in this life or previous 
> ones, it's that simple.
> 
> One will naturally fall into harmony with Natural Law by practicing 
> Religious/Spiritual principles like meditation and scripture. We need to 
> learn the lessons of the past or we are forced to repeat them, as you well 
> know.
>


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