Barry: Hey, Hill. Do actions speak louder than words? Hillary: Who are you projecting on now, Barry? Barry: Oh, I see...another bitchy vendetta against me. Hillary: The State Department will get back to you on that. U.S. Embassy, The Hague: Yes, Madam Secretary? Hillary: A paranoid, misogynist, with NPD thinks *I* have a problem. LOL!
[https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zi2UJvBcp5I/UKZ961KxxKI/AAAAAAAABno/\ PN6wojCuRKI/s448/Hillry1.png] [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4BQ_oyPahvE/UKZ961hIJzI/AAAAAAAABnk/\ fwUkiUfOtTI/s448/Hillry2.png] [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZMBQtNjUiz0/UKZ968GVoxI/AAAAAAAABn4/\ Vb_Mxv3wH98/s448/Hillry3.png] [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wIYYCpwHCG8/UKZ97MKH28I/AAAAAAAABns/\ IOx-qextjLA/s448/Hillry4.png] [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cyVUgvmCvGg/UKZ97e9-rUI/AAAAAAAABnw/\ Q1Fym3fxJ_0/s448/Hillry5.png] [https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xiqv1sstdmY/UKZ_y0wuehI/AAAAAAAABoY/\ KTLQJRSkyd0/s448/Hillry6.png] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" raunchydog@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > This is an interesting piece, Barry. I guess the premise of > > > > projection might > > > > apply to the writings of Robin as well, yes? > > > > > > Hey, if you're saying that he's just pretending to be a > > > "changed man" in his writings but at heart he's really > > > still Adolf Hitler, that's your > > > take on the situation, not mine. :-) > > > > Seems to me you missed the premise of your own post. > > It seems to me that you missed the whole premise of > another of my posts, that we do NOT have to rely > on either Robin's writing *style* to judge him, or > on the *words* themselves. We have the ACTIONS > that underlie these posts with which to assess him. > > Those actions, since he has first appeared here, > have entailed *consistently* trying to suck people > into one-to-one confrontations with him, so that he > can argue with them and (in his own mind, at least) > "win" and establish his dominance. When doing this, > he has also *consistently* DEMANDED that people not > only read his long, long, insufferably long rants, > but rely to each and every one of the points he > thinks he's raised, as if they *owe* him partici- > pation in his "confrontation fantasies." When one > or more people (such as Curtis or Share) have told > him clearly and unmistakably that they have NO > INTEREST in pursuing such fruitless egobattles > with him, he has *consistently* failed to respect > their choices, and in fact has continued to badger > them, doing anything he could possibly think of > to try to lure them back into a one-on-one with > him. > > These are not things that are revealed in his > words or stylistic choices (as abysmal as they > may be). These are ACTIONS. And they ALL reflect > important behavioral traits seen in people who > suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder. > > Look, you may have succeeded in fooling some other > people here with your act of "defending Robin," > but not me. You're "in it" because he represents > to you a challenge to *other people* you have a > long-standing grudge against, and you see aligning > yourself with him as a way to "get" them. This > behavior on YOUR part is infantile and silly, and > using an arguably mentally ill person to accom- > plish such petty goals is even worse. > > Here's the thing, that neither you nor Judy seem > to understand that you reveal about yourselves and > your real motives -- YOU DON'T ACTUALLY *TALK* > TO ROBIN. You talk *about* him, and use him as an > excuse to dump on other people on this forum you > have taken a dislike to. But do YOU get into his > long, demanding one-on-one's with him? YOU DO > NOT. Do YOU get into long, involved debates about > his so-called philosophy with him? YOU DO NOT. > > Robin is a mere prop for your own bitchy vendettas. > I don't believe that you give a shit about him. > If you wish to prove me wrong, we'll wait for you > to actually have the kinds of conversations and > arguments with him that he seems to seek. If you > don't, I rest my case. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Having written in creative contexts, during which I had to invent > > > > > characters and then "put myself inside their heads" to make them > > > > > believable, I've always wondered about those who feel that they can > > > > > "know" a writer from what they write. > > > > > > > > > > For example, I've heard supposedly knowledgeable critics call > > > Stephen > > > > > King "sick" for writing some of his horror scenes, while completely > > > > > ignoring some of his more spiritual and uplifting work, such as the > > > > > noble quests and characters in, say, "The Talisman." Similarly I've > > > seen > > > > > people describe William Peter Blatty as "obviously possessed by > > > demons > > > > > and under the influence of Satan" for writing what others consider > > > one > > > > > of the most Catholic (and thus religious) books ever written, "The > > > > > Exorcist." > > > > > > > > > > Having had this experience of creating characters or plotlines and > > > then > > > > > immersing myself in them long enough to write about them in a way > > > that > > > > > sounds realistic, I'm not convinced of people's claims to be able to > > > > > "know" any writer based on what he or she writes. I think that > > > instead > > > > > people tend to *project* what they want to see onto a passage of > > > > > writing, and attribute to the writer emotions, thoughts, or > > > qualities he > > > > > or she might not have had. Thus someone who already wishes to > > > believe > > > > > that Maharishi is a Good Guy can read what he writes and see nothing > > > but > > > > > Good Guyness there, while someone who is already convinced that he > > > is a > > > > > charlatan can read the same passage and see nothing but charlatanry. > > > > > > > > > > I think people do this all the time...bring their preconceptions > > > about a > > > > > writer into play and allow them to color what they read, and their > > > > > perceptions of what and who the writer is. For example, the other > > > day I > > > > > read about a writing workshop in which the students were asked to > > > read > > > > > the following quote from Gandhi, and comment on what they "saw" of > > > the > > > > > author's psychological state and overall personality in it. > > > Here...you > > > > > guys give it a try, too: > > > > > > > > > > "I can give vent to my inmost feelings only in the form of humble > > > thanks > > > > > to Providence which called upon me and vouchsafed it to me...to rise > > > to > > > > > be the leader of my people, so dear to me. Providence showed me the > > > way > > > > > to free our people from the depths of its misery without bloodshed > > > and > > > > > to lead it upward once again. Providence granted that I might > > > fulfill my > > > > > life's task -- to raise my people out of the depths of defeat and to > > > > > liberate it from the bonds of the most outrageous dictate of all > > > > > times... I have regarded myself as called upon by Providence to > > > serve my > > > > > own people alone and to deliver them from their frightful misery." > > > > > > > > > > The students went on and on about the qualities of the noble > > > spiritual > > > > > leader they saw in this passage, and how perfectly it reflected > > > Gandhi's > > > > > philosophy of non-violence and dedication to humanity. They compared > > > the > > > > > style of this paragraph to other famous quotes of Gandhi's, and used > > > > > both sets of words to back up their perceptions of the writer as a > > > noble > > > > > and religious man, nigh unto saintly in his dedication to his fellow > > > > > man. > > > > > > > > > > At the end of the exercise the professor revealed to the students > > > that > > > > > the quote (with a few "spoiler" words removed) is from a 1939 speech > > > > > delivered to the Reichstag by Adolf Hitler. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
