Hey Michael, I just wrote a rather lengthy reply to this, but it got eaten.
I reread your (lengthy) response about why you feel that TM should not be used for the treatment of PTSD. And your realize that much of it has nothing to do with the actual treatment, but rather the fact that you do not like the TMO, it's leaders or its claims. And you offer only pure speculation on why it would not be an appropiate treatment. And finally, you seem to be saying that since I don't agree with what you wrote that I am in denial in some way. You invent this notion that I don't respect your opinion because you aren't specifically credentialled in this way. You laid out your reasons. They appear well thought out. I am sorry if I remain unconvinced. I wish you the best in putting forth you agenda for dealing with this issue. My position remains the same. Let the results speak for themselves. That appears to be the last thing you want to consider. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I wrote it because you asked me why I didn't like the idea of TM for PTSD folks and I told you - evidently you aren't willing to pay attention to anything I say unless I have an MD in PTSD treatment behind my name. > > The TMO is reason enough to stay away from TM, especially for these at risk people. It is time (but I know it ain't gonna happen) that people stop saying that TM is good, we just have to ignore or excuse the TMO and its people's behavior and energy. > > I am not willing to see veteran's with PTSD used as experimental subjects - IF, IF , IF TM had lived up to its hype, lived up to the claims made for it and its ancillary programs made through its questionable "scientific" research, I would be more than willing to see TM taught on the battlefield itself, but given the fact that TM research across the board from the early stuff to the laughable Maharishi Effect stuff, it isn't likely that TM will show itself to be efficacious for treatment of PTSD. > > How many years will people stop saying "Oh, well, nothing's been proven yet, but let's just give it another 60 years, I know Marshy will be proven right one day." > > > > > ________________________________ > From: seventhray27 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:53 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve, About PTSD > > >  > Hey Michael, > Thanks for your very thorough reply. I commend you for your efforts to come up with treatments for the PTSD, and I hope that you succeed in getting your ideas implemented. In my opinion, that is where I would focus my attention. I can't say that you come across as any kind of authority of what the efficacy of TM would be in this situation, but I would assume that whatever benefits or detriments that would result from the practice of TM for PTSD would be become apparant and based on that, the program would be continued,or expanded or curtailed or discontinued. > Why not the results, or non results speak for themselves? >  > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Bottom line, TM simply is not the best meditation for these > > folks with PTSD. > > > > >