No deal. I have no anger toward you. I just think it's pathetic to use this 
forum to accuse others of sexual immorality. You admit it's just gossip. You 
don't even know the man. An accusation like that makes you look bad, far more 
so than your intended target. It makes you look petty and vicious and 
self-righteous. Are you without sin, Duveyoung? If not, STFU about others.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, let me double down:  I say it's absolutely true that he was an  
> adulterer.  THERE, now let him sue me.  I got the money and the time to rake 
> him over the coals.  I bet I could get hundreds of witnesses.  It would be 
> spectacular!  
> 
> And Fester, you gotta look at your anger towards me as much as I have to look 
> at my anger toward Heggy.....deal?
> 
> Edg
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote:
> >
> > What a pathetic post. Peddling old gossip, spreading rumors, denouncing 
> > others for alleged immorality. If you can't do better than this, Duveyoung, 
> > I suggest you STFU. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I "know" only from gossip, but the gossip was a constant patter of 
> > > "tidbits."  I saw him at dinner ONCE with a married lady, but that could 
> > > have been innocent.......yeah, right, sure......  Small town with only 
> > > about three restaurants to "get fancy dancy" and of course he was seen 
> > > around town a lot.  I, with four kids at MSAE had all kinds of pot lucks 
> > > etc. to hob nob enough to catch the gossip.  Of course, EVEN ONCE, would 
> > > be enough for my "Lutheranism patterns amplified by my TM shame-on-you 
> > > patterns" to glom onto and bookmark the anecdotes. Same deal with Bevan, 
> > > and I personally saw Larry Domesh indulging in lust sitting a mere 20 
> > > feet from Maharishi as he lectured to a private group!  Yup, sex is a 
> > > powerful mind twister, and, hey, the movement never gave us help-one to 
> > > meet those challenges, so it's not like we can throw the book at these 
> > > guys for moral-criminality, but yeah, I do.
> > > 
> > > Note:  The Karina Hotel fire was caused by a guy who started his girl 
> > > friend's room on fire due to her "cheating" on him.  
> > > 
> > > Careful out there on the long rounding courses, kiddies, people be 
> > > destressing!
> > > 
> > > Edg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have heard from time to time about Hagelin's womanizing but nothing 
> > > > very specific - how do you know all this stuff or has it just been kind 
> > > > of circulating around and not specific?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >  From: Duveyoung <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:47 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion – John 
> > > > Hagelin, Ph.D.,  Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick 
> > > > Archer
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It takes two to tangle. You seem to imply that he was 
> > > > > dragging them to the cave with a stone club in hand.
> > > > > Looks like TM didn't do any good to those women either.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe we can assign 50% of the blame on the married women, cuz, hey, 
> > > > free will and all that, but..... nope.
> > > > 
> > > > The equation changes when one of the partners has so much to offer to 
> > > > the (spiritually, financially, socially) impoverished other.
> > > > 
> > > > He took advantage.  He leveraged.  He must be held to the same standard 
> > > > we held Maharishi about his sexcapades.
> > > > 
> > > > Hagelin never not once ever never once ever said: 
> > > > 
> > > > "Hey, babe, nice just meeting you, a minion, and me, a royal scion, and 
> > > > I know you're married, and it's a sin to fuck me, but, hey, let's just 
> > > > put all that aside and not dwell on the YEARS AND YEARS OF DAMAGE it 
> > > > would do to your husband and your kids if they find out." 
> > > > 
> > > > Hagelin never asked like that, right, but THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE 
> > > > EXPECTED FROM THEM, cuz, HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.  And he knew he was 
> > > > ABSOLUTELY HARMING these women -- "harming" means "alluring women to 
> > > > change their lives so dramatically and so covertly that it was certain 
> > > > that when the affairs were revealed, all the lying and disloyalty would 
> > > > not be easily dealt with -- without YEARS of professional help for all 
> > > > concerned." 
> > > > 
> > > > That is fucking harmful. 
> > > > 
> > > > At least Dr. Bloomfield drugged his women and didn't try to brainwash 
> > > > them into breaking the trust enjoyed with virtually everyone in their 
> > > > social circle. 
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, sure, it MIGHT evolve some folks who would rise to the challenges 
> > > > of facing ones personal integrity being shitcanned after one has torn 
> > > > ones life up like a bad parking ticket, yep, could be, but on average, 
> > > > every woman who ever fucked Hagelin had to face themselves in perhaps 
> > > > the harshest light they've ever had shone upon them.  And it wouldn't 
> > > > be pretty what they saw in the mirror.
> > > > 
> > > > Each woman, on her death bed, gets to say:  "I fucked Hagelin and 
> > > > ruined my marriage and my kids hate me to this day for what I did to 
> > > > their father when I could have just gone to a marriage counselor or 
> > > > something, or I could have at least faced their father forthrightly 
> > > > about the marital dissonance and just said, 'I'm ending it, but at 
> > > > least I'm being honest and not sneaking behind your back and cuckolding 
> > > > you and doing all the things that incur rage in others who are blinded 
> > > > by their trust and loyalty towards the cheating partner and who will 
> > > > have no clue until it's revealed to them as if a bomb going off.'"
> > > > 
> > > > Who wants to say that?  Hagelin made every woman NOT CONSIDER THAT.  He 
> > > > gave them, what?, promises of, what?  Don't even try to tell me all the 
> > > > women were simply randy and Hagelin was a hunk.  Women don't go for 
> > > > that.  They might be horny, but it is only cuz they want the whole 
> > > > man's wherewithal --  not just his dick. 
> > > > 
> > > > He leveraged by promising who knows what.  That is not saintly.  That 
> > > > is not honest.  That is fucking evil.  And TM didn't do a THING TO 
> > > > CHANGE IT.
> > > > 
> > > > Edg
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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