emptybill: > Robin never was interested in a classical Vedantic assessment > of his so-called “enlightenment”. > That's because MMY didn't present TM in a classical assessment of enlightenment. MMY's sadhana is based on yoga practice. If it was Vedantic MMY would have emphasized the Vedantic notion of maya,which is not real, yet not unreal. Instead the TMer practice is in the context of the yogic praxis quasi-dualism. When your practice any yoga it invovles a knower and a known - it's considered to be based on a fundamental dualism. If Robin had wanted to interpret his enlightenment according to Vedantic explanations he would have done so - I haven't seen any evidence in his writing that Robin believed anything but the subject-object dualism. Vedantic realism is based on transcendental knowledge not on the maya of works or acts that can liberate.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:57 PM, <emptyb...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > *Michael sez:* > > > > *"Robin's experience was that his actions were, as it were, dictated by > cosmic forces, rather than that he could just do whatever he felt like. His > experience was that he could not do other than what he did, even though at > times there was some aspect of himself that didn't want to do what he was > doing."* > > > > *So bottom line I don't buy Robin's assertion that he in essence was > forced to behave in this way by these "forces." That excuse goes back as > long as we have had the idea of a Devil. * > > > > Emptybill replies: > > > > Robin never was interested in a classical Vedantic assessment of his > so-called “enlightenment”. All of this, in spite of the fact that > Shankara’s Vedanta was the proffered basis of Maharishi’s tradition. Such > an assessment would have presented an opposite view about this whole > “enlightenment meme”. I pointed this out to Robin a number of times but he > wasn’t interested in hearing about it. Rather he just wanted to espouse his > chosen narrative about how he was deluded by “cosmic entities” but was now > free of them. More of the old - “I didn’t fail … I was fooled” as you also > pointed out. > > > > This is what happens when *experience* itself becomes the object of > sadhana (practice) rather than conformity with Reality. It is the same old > theme and “gurus” just fool people when they cheat them out of the > self-evaluations necessary for real sadhana. > > >
