On 5/2/2014 6:24 AM, Share Long wrote:

And Richard, how can we possibly separate belief and practice completely? I don't think we can simply because we don't live our lives with our heads cut off from our bodies!
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We cannot possibly separate our beliefs completely, but what we can do is challenge anyone who tries to control our mind and body through coercion with false dichotomies. Everyone meditates and everyone is transcending, even without a technique.

So, after fifteen years of dialog disparaging meditators on this and one other discussion group, it now comes out that Curtis and Barry are the True Believers - they meditate. So, what exactly was their argument against meditating? It's was all about Judy.

/*MMY  has NOTHING to do with their transcending.*/ It's that simple.


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