---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
What inaccurate predictions? Most people had questions for things that really stood out in the chart. Those predictions are easy to see. Also many people just wanted to know why their life went the way it did, not necessarily predictions. I also use a lot of intuition. I bet, intuition and randomness, can be mighty impressive, even to the person pulling the scam , erm I mean casting the runes. It's a point worth remembering about cold-reading, astrology or any sort of divination. The practitioner may not be aware of what they are doing. Intuition and general knowledge of what people want to hear are behind this, the fiddling around with ephemeris is irrelevant. We ought to know that by now. The chart helps key that and gives direction. If you tie yourself down to much to rules you start making bad predictions. Exactly, it aint nothing to do with planets or stars or anything astronomical. I'm glad we finally got there Bhairitu, it was wearing me out! On 08/06/2014 07:22 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: How do you account for the inaccurate predictions and how do you and your clients rationalize them, also what percentage of your predictions are accurate and what % are inaccurate? From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish. Only the ladies from the Playboy Mansion lined up for readings (each your heart out). I did readings just for the fun of it and mainly for people where I worked and a few friends and relatives. Never really wanted to hang out a shingle. On 08/06/2014 02:17 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: What I get is that from the horoscopes for people I have done the predictions played out. you have to be cherry picking. If 100% of your astrology predictions came true, you would be a world famous astrologer with millions of people clamoring for your readings. How do you account for the inaccurate predictions and how do you and your clients rationalize them, also what percentage of your predictions are accurate and what % are inaccurate? From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/06/2014 09:25 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote : But that wasn't my point with SallyAnn (which is what Thunderbird wants to rename him). It was to point out that he lacks the proper credentials or scientific depth to discuss the issue properly. He doesn't appear to know even basic astronomy. LOL. You'veignored most of what I've said anyway, but do you really think there is an issue to discuss? Read it all again, all I want to say is that your horoscope looks a bit silly if you put everything where it's supposed to be instead of where the software thinks it is. Obviously you don't think about it like that, the picture the ancients had was sweet but so inaccurate that they'd fall over backwards if they saw what reality was really like. How can it be taken seriously if you aren't taking in the extra distances due to orbits going behind the sun for instance? The only force known to be infinite in extent is gravity and it can't be that, it couldn't be that even if the Earth was the centre of the universe. It's all rubbish. It's so obvious to me it hurts. What other credentials do I need dear Bhairitu? The only thing we seem to be left with is some other force that ties us in with the movements of planets against an arbitrary background but is rubbish at making predictions even though it's all supposed to be running like clockwork. Would I believe it if I was born two hours later? What I think we have here is a division between though who fear the idea that our lives are predestined and those who celebrate it. If astrology seems to give some clue about destiny fine. Science may also discover the patterns which rule our lives and indeed there are scientists trying to do so. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who hide behind the shield of science who know little about science. Science has dismissed astrology many times. These patterns that rule our lives should make it easy to make testable predictions but they don't seem to work. Far from hiding behind a shield I'm actually thinking of ways to show it does work, by having a chart done for instance and then thinking about it. Trouble is, one of the main predictions was wrong. So how can any of the others be right if they don't take into account the effect that a life changing event would have had. Be being extra vague? That doesn't sound like my life is being ruled by patterns that science has yet to understand. Do you get it yet? I get that you can't rationally discuss the subject. What'sirrational about anything I've said? Your replies are emotionally biased and loaded with ignorance both of astrology and science. Emotionallybiased? That makes no sense but I admit I'm ignorant of how astrology could possibly work. I'm always happy to apply scientific principles to things though, I do now how to do that coz it's easy, you just look for the weak link and set up a question that falsifies the conjecture if it can't be answered. AndBTW there are practitioners of heliocentric astrology. Maybe you ought to test it out. Like I said, there are experts in Bigfoot and Yeti... What I get is that from the horoscopes for people I have done the predictions played out. So you are the perfect astrologer? Cool. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. Childish. On 08/06/2014 12:39 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote : And besides, we get it, you don't like astrology. :-D I've yet to see anything to like about it. As previously noted, I don't think there is any link between the motions of the planets and human behavior, *even on the level of long-term observance of trends*, using the "motions of the planets" only to map the supposed repeating time-trends. I think it's all hooey onto which people project their shit. That said, I see no more harm in astrology *used for entertainment purposes*, and nothing else. I see it as on pretty much the same level as these silly websites that promise to tell you your "personality type" or (recently) your "life novel." They're just Rorschach tests, which can be used to explore one's own personality, along the lines of, "Wow...I can't believe I see a hot babe in that blob of ink. What does that say about me." You can potentially have the same level of fun with an astrology reading, presuming that you didn't pay very much for it, and don't take it too seriously, and as anything *more* or *more meaningful* than entertainment. I can still make jokes about my own "Sagittarius tendencies," for example, and laugh about the supposedly Sag traits I read about that seem to apply to me, but at the same time I know that I'm just projecting any correspondences ontothese traits, and that they aren't real. They're just entertaining. It's when people start putting money on the line for astrology that things go over the line. Paying hundreds of dollars to (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
