How do you account for the inaccurate predictions and how do you and your clients rationalize them, also what percentage of your predictions are accurate and what % are inaccurate?
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From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
Only the ladies from the Playboy Mansion lined up for readings (each your heart
out). I did readings just for the fun of it and mainly for people where I
worked and a few friends and relatives. Never really wanted to hang out a
shingle.
On 08/06/2014 02:17 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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>What I get is that from the horoscopes for people I have done the predictions
>played out.
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>you have to be cherry picking. If 100% of your astrology predictions came
>true, you would be a world famous astrologer with millions of people clamoring
>for your readings. How do you account for the inaccurate predictions and how
>do you and your clients rationalize them, also what percentage of your
>predictions are accurate and what % are inaccurate?
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> From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 3:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why astrology is rubbish.
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>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
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>On 08/06/2014 09:25 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
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>>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
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>>>But that wasn't my point
with SallyAnn (which is
what
Thunderbird
wants to rename him). It
was to point out that he
lacks the
proper credentials or
scientific depth to
discuss the
issue
properly. He doesn't
appear to know even basic
astronomy.
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>>>LOL. You've ignored most of what I've said anyway, but do you really think
>>>there is an issue to discuss? Read it all again, all I want to say is that
>>>your horoscope looks a bit silly if you put everything where it's supposed
>>>to be instead of where the software thinks it is. Obviously you don't think
>>>about it like that, the picture the ancients had was sweet but so inaccurate
>>>that they'd fall over backwards if they saw what reality was really like.
>>>How can it be taken seriously if you aren't taking in the extra distances
>>>due to orbits going behind the sun for instance? The only force known to be
>>>infinite in extent is gravity and it can't be that, it couldn't be that even
>>>if the Earth was the centre of the universe. It's all rubbish. It's so
>>>obvious to me it hurts. What other credentials do I need dear Bhairitu?
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>>>The only thing we seem to be left with is some other force that ties us in
>>>with the movements of planets against an arbitrary background but is rubbish
>>>at making predictions even though it's all supposed to be running like
>>>clockwork. Would I believe it if I was born two hours later?
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>>>What I think we have here
is a division between
though
who fear
the idea that our lives
are predestined and those
who
celebrate
it. If astrology seems to
give some clue about
destiny fine.
Science may also discover
the patterns which rule
our
lives and
indeed there are
scientists trying to do
so.
Unfortunately there
are a lot of people who
hide behind the shield of
science who know
little about science.
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>>>Science has dismissed astrology many times. These patterns that rule our
>>>lives should make it easy to make testable predictions but they don't seem
>>>to work. Far from hiding behind a shield I'm actually thinking of ways to
>>>show it does work, by having a chart done for instance and then thinking
>>>about it. Trouble is, one of the main predictions was wrong. So how can any
>>>of the others be right if they don't take into account the effect that a
>>>life changing event would have had. Be being extra vague? That doesn't sound
>>>like my life is being ruled by patterns that science has yet to understand.
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>>>Do you get it yet?
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>>I get that you can't rationally
discuss the subject.
>What's irrational about anything I've said?
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>Your replies are emotionally biased and loaded with ignorance both of
>astrology and science.
>Emotionally biased? That makes no sense but I admit I'm ignorant of how
>astrology could possibly work.
>I'm always happy to apply scientific principles to things though, I do now how
>to do that coz it's easy, you just look for the weak link and set up a
>question that falsifies the conjecture if it can't be answered.
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>And BTW there are practitioners of heliocentric astrology. Maybe you ought to
>test it out.
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>Like I said, there are experts in Bigfoot and Yeti...
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>>What I get is that from the horoscopes for people I have done the predictions
>>played out.
>So you are the perfect astrologer? Cool.
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>Put that in your chillum and smoke it.
>Childish.
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>>>On 08/06/2014 12:39
AM, TurquoiseBee
turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
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>>>>From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
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>>>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
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>>>>And besides, we get it, you don't like astrology. :-D
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>>>>I've yet to see anything to like about it.
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>>>>>As previously noted, I don't think there is any link between the motions
>>>>>of the planets and human behavior, *even on the level of long-term
>>>>>observance of trends*, using the "motions of the planets" only to map the
>>>>>supposed repeating time-trends. I think it's all hooey onto which people
>>>>>project their shit.
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>>>>That said, I
see no more
harm in
astrology
*used for
entertainment
purposes*,
and nothing
else. I see it
as on pretty
much the
same
level as these
silly websites
that
promise to
tell you your
"personality
type" or
(recently)
your "life
novel."
They're just
Rorschach
tests, which
can be used to
explore
one's own
personality,
along the
lines of,
"Wow...I
can't believe
I see a hot
babe in
that blob of
ink. What does
that say about
me."
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>>>>You can
potentially
have the same
level of fun
with an
astrology
reading,
presuming
that you
didn't pay
very much for
it, and
don't take it
too seriously,
and as
anything
*more* or
*more
meaningful*
than
entertainment.
I
can still
make jokes
about my own
"Sagittarius
tendencies,"
for example,
and laugh
about the
supposedly Sag
traits I read
about
that seem
to apply to
me, but at the
same time
I know
that I'm just
projecting any
correspondences
onto
these traits,
and that they
aren't real.
They're just
entertaining.
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>>>>It's when
people start
putting money
on the
line for
astrology that
things go
over the
line. Paying
hundreds of
dollars to
some
charlatan for
a reading goes
over
the line.
Making life
decisions or
economic
decisions or
even romantic
decisions
based on the
"reading"
is going over
the line.
Buying gems
or other
Woo Woo
talismans to
"mitigate
karmas" is
going over the
line. Treating
astrology or
jyotish as if
they were some
kind of
"science"
is going over
the line.
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>>>>The squiggles
on a "chart"
are IMO
no more
potentially
meaningful
than the
arrangement of
tea leaves in
the bottom of
a
teacup. And no
less so. If
your mind has
the
ability to
slip
into "seeing"
mode and get a
hit off
of tea
leaves, then
it might have
the
ability to do
so with an
astrology
chart. But
it's
your mind
doing the
"seeing," not
the creation
of a
chart, or the
dumping out of
the tea
leaves.
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>>>>But all of
this is
pissing into
the
wind when
addressing
people who are
locked
into Woo Woo
Syndrome and
constantly
looking for
the Next
Big Thing to
spend money on
to
increase their
Woo / sense of
self-importance.
There
is no
real "wish to
find out"
there.
They're going
to go for
anecdotes that
reinforce
their "will
to believe"
every time.
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