--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > But as it turns out I have neither had, nor have
> > I ever sought, any experience that could in any way be
> > descried as "there is no me-vs-them, we are all one."  
> > 
> > I suspect that this description has almost nothing to 
> > do with real experiences of the direct perception of Unity.
> > In other words, what I think Judy is describing is a
> > guess, *from the point of view of someone who hasn't 
> > even experienced CC*, of what Unity might be like.  
> > Me, I consider her description NewAgeSpeak at its
> > worst, 
> 
> Tom T:
> As Neil DOnald Walsh once wrote, "there is only one of US". Once
> awakening occurs that is one of the basic understandings that is
> unadvoidable. Given that an awake person "gets" or "groks" THAT, 
> then there is no differrence between being laughed at or with. 
> As a matter of fact it just becomes another opportunity to just 
> laugh at the craziness inside the monkey house and out. Laughter 
> is just laughter. No Attack. No Attacker. Just me and the other 
> me rolling on the floor whooping it up. TOm T
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/85017
> 
> Interesting hypothesis Barry. Maybe Tom Traynor is "someone who 
> hasn't even experienced CC*, of what Unity might be like."

Or, he has his way of expressing things, Neil Donald 
Walsh has his, and I have mine, and *none* of them
has anything whatsoever to do with Judy's NewAgeSpeak.  :-)

I'm not responsible for how Tom describes his exper-
iences and interprets them, I'm not responsible for
how this Walsh guy does it, and I'm not responsible
for how you react when you hear any of them.  All I'm
responsible for, if I'm silly enough to try to 
describe experiences that I *know* can *NEVER* be
expressed in words, is doing the best I can at *that*
inachievable task.

In other words, what you're trying to do is claim
that if any two people say that they've experienced
awakening or enlightenment or *whatever* one chooses
to call it, and they don't AGREE with each other,
something is not right.  Did I get your basic thesis?

Well, I'm suggesting that your basic thesis is a 
rather dimwitted, simplistic view of a far more 
complicated reality, and that you choose to believe 
the dimwitted view because your time with Maharishi 
has made you intellectually lazy and taught you to 
settle for consistent, easy answers.

And if settling for consistent, easy answers makes 
you happy, I say more power to you.  Good deal.  I 
wish you the best of luck with that.

Me, I'd rather have experiences than spout theories 
about them, and it's a Friday night, so I'm off to 
have a few experiences right now.  I leave you to 
talk about them.  :-)







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