--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > But as it turns out I have neither had, nor have > > > I ever sought, any experience that could in any way be > > > descried as "there is no me-vs-them, we are all one." > > > > > > I suspect that this description has almost nothing to > > > do with real experiences of the direct perception of Unity. > > > In other words, what I think Judy is describing is a > > > guess, *from the point of view of someone who hasn't > > > even experienced CC*, of what Unity might be like. > > > Me, I consider her description NewAgeSpeak at its > > > worst, > > > > Tom T: > > As Neil DOnald Walsh once wrote, "there is only one of US". Once > > awakening occurs that is one of the basic understandings that is > > unadvoidable. Given that an awake person "gets" or "groks" THAT, > > then there is no differrence between being laughed at or with. > > As a matter of fact it just becomes another opportunity to just > > laugh at the craziness inside the monkey house and out. Laughter > > is just laughter. No Attack. No Attacker. Just me and the other > > me rolling on the floor whooping it up. TOm T > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/85017 > > > > Interesting hypothesis Barry. Maybe Tom Traynor is "someone who > > hasn't even experienced CC*, of what Unity might be like." > > Or, he has his way of expressing things, Neil Donald > Walsh has his, and I have mine, and *none* of them > has anything whatsoever to do with Judy's NewAgeSpeak. :-)
Well, yes, it does, actually. I was thinking specifically of what Tom had just said, quoted above. "There is only one of US" seems to me pretty similar to my paraphrase "There is no me-vs.-them, we are all one." > I'm not responsible for how Tom describes his exper- > iences and interprets them, I'm not responsible for > how this Walsh guy does it, and I'm not responsible > for how you react when you hear any of them. All I'm > responsible for, if I'm silly enough to try to > describe experiences that I *know* can *NEVER* be > expressed in words, is doing the best I can at *that* > inachievable task. But you do appear to consider yourself responsible for inferring what experiences others have and have not had, as well as where they got their descriptions from, and for "proudly" insisting that you have never had such experiences, as if they were somehow beneath you. > In other words, what you're trying to do is claim > that if any two people say that they've experienced > awakening or enlightenment or *whatever* one chooses > to call it, and they don't AGREE with each other, > something is not right. Did I get your basic thesis? I suspect what he's pointing out, and you're avoiding dealing with, is that by rejecting the "There is only one of US" experience as simply someone's idea of what Unity might be like, you're implying that Tom (and the others who have reported this experience) has no experiential knowledge of CC and certainly not of Unity. > Well, I'm suggesting that your basic thesis is a > rather dimwitted, simplistic view of a far more > complicated reality, and that you choose to believe > the dimwitted view because your time with Maharishi > has made you intellectually lazy and taught you to > settle for consistent, easy answers. In fact, as anyone who has read Anon's posts with any attention realizes, settling for consistent, easy answers is about as far from what he's doing as it's possible to be. That's exactly what he's inveighing *against*. > > And if settling for consistent, easy answers makes > you happy, I say more power to you. Good deal. I > wish you the best of luck with that. > > Me, I'd rather have experiences than spout theories > about them, and it's a Friday night, so I'm off to > have a few experiences right now. I leave you to > talk about them. :-) > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
