--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rmy108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And I forgot to ask... If Guru Dev told MMY not to teach, why have the shankarachaya's (Shantanand, Vishnu Devanand, and Vasudevanand) supported MMY and his movement? Surely if Satyanand suppossedly knew Guru Dev told MMY not to teach, these other disciples would have found this out. And don't tell me its because MMY was giving lots of money to support them. I know for a fact from when I was in India a few years ago, that MMY is giving the current shankaracharya (Vasudevanand) very little. > If Guru Dev told Maharishi not to teach, why would Satyanand have > joined Maharishi, knowing full well that the whole TM movement was > against his masters wishes. Its one thing if Maharishi disobeyed > Guru Dev, but its another thing that two disciples (MMY and > Satyanand) would disobey Guru Dev's instructions. It doesn't make > sense to me that this could happen and therefore seems to take away > from the credibility of this idea that has been floating around that > Guru Dev told Maharishi not to teach. > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <jyouells@> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > I guess my questions for the group as a whole are: > > > > > > 1. *Is* it important to you to believe that Maharishi > > > was/is enlightened? > > > > > > At the time, I think it made me feel really special that *I* was > so > > > special as to have found a great teacher. Personally, I think the > > > mystical aura Mahesh cultivated around himself, quite > intentionally, > > > both stroked his ego and enhances his marketability. > > > > > > 2. If so, *why*? > > > > > > As above. > > > > > > 3. What *difference* do you think that would have > > > made in his ability to teach you what you have > > > learned from him? > > > > > > That's a matter of what I know now, isn't it. I really admired > the > > > compelling structure, uniformity and graspableness of the way he > > > taught. > > > > > > *** > > > > > > With respect to what you say below, I kind of agree. It's one > thing > > > to know your stuff, it's another to let it ripen (and I am > talking > > > about this business of spiritual stuff we perceive in what > little we > > > know of Guru Dev). Without being "established" in that purity of > the > > > perfectly controlled ego, the teacher is always at great risk. > Mahesh > > > may indeed have felt he had fooled Guru Dev (oh, see how > absolutely > > > devoted I am to you! I am so wonderful.) But I suspect Guru Dev > could > > > see through the devotion or at least the appearance of the great > > > actor playing god and perceive the risky business of the ego > beneath > > > that. > > > > > > It's good to hear what Sattyanand had to say. He was there. He > > > certainly knew. If only someone could have interviewed him the > way > > > Mahesh interviewed people: picked their brains and got > everything. > > > > > > > Does anyone have more detail on what Sattyanand said - context - > who did > > he say it to? > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > I *do* believe that he went against the direct > > > advice of his own teacher in making this decision > > > to teach, and at his own peril. Spiritual teaching > > > is a perilous task; there are pitfalls and dangers > > > in it, especially for those who still have a strong > > > ego that would be easy prey for these pitfalls and > > > dangers. *That* is what I believe that Guru Dev > > > had in mind when he told Maharishi not to teach, > > > and to follow his *own* example and spend his time > > > in meditation, far away from the teaching process. > > > (This information came from Sattyanand, many years > > > ago.) We are talking, after all, about a guy (Guru > > > Dev) who tried as hard as humanly possible to *avoid* > > > being forced into the position of being a teacher > > > himself. He *understood* the pitfalls and dangers. > > > When they tried to make him the Shankaracharya, he > > > literally disappeared for 21 days, hoping that they > > > would change their minds and choose someone else. > > > I think he had Maharishi's best interests in mind > > > when he made the suggestion that he *not* teach; > > > he must have known that Maharishi was not *ready* > > > to teach, and *would* fall victim to the pitfalls > > > and dangers that awaited him if he chose that path. > > > And I believe that Maharishi did, in fact, fall > > > prey to them. > > >
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