--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Non sequitur. There's no mention nor any implication in my above  
> statement that is connected to your response. Turiyatita or jivan- 
> mukti are the traditional words for "CC". It's well-known in what  
> style of literature these are used.
> 
> Written accounts only mention him as a jivan-mukti, but the truth is,  
> there is more to life than the written word. We really, at this late  
> date don't have any clue about a man not even one of us has ever met.  
> But also worrying about something so long gone is pathetic. Learn  
> what there is to learn and move on.
> 
> But just to stir the pot he was known for a couple of siddhis:  
> spontaneously lighting ritual fires and materialization of objects.  
> The clincher is the last one. Can you guess what state of  
> consciousness one would have to be in to materialize sacred objects?  
> (hint: it ain't CC :-)).


Actually it is more simply stated as that between a thimble full of
water representing Self Realization (CC according to MMY, sometimes),

A picture full of water representing GC (realization of the personal
formless 'consciousness' of the personal God IN creation)

And Unity or UC, represented by a broken picture of water, realization
of the Universal oneness of Brahman as manifest and unmanifest. :-)

Just like water is the same regardless of the container, so Brahman is
essentially the same regardless of the form it is expressed thru...(my
analogy).

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