hello list,

i need to solve something closely related to this thread.

i would put two parts in a single staff, say, flutes I/II. but some passages
are too way polyphonic and complex, so sharing the same staff would result
in a messy layout. i know i can write those parts in two different staves,
and at last, optimizing would hide the the non-used staff. but as you can
see, i would have to accomodate those parts in a single page, and a problem
with staves names remains, as the first staff will say flutes I - II, and
the other one, flute II. is there a better choice or procedure?
thanks in advance for any advice,

regards,
marcelo



----- Original Message -----
From: David H. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Alain Mayrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] orchestral efficiency


> Orchestral instrumental parts are not always printed on separate staves,
> so perhaps you need to rethink your modus operandi.
>
> Often Flutes 1 and 2 are on the same staff on a single part, same with
> most woodwind and brass parts.  So the horn parts are often Horn I/II
> and III/IV in newer works and Horn I/III and II/IV in older works,
> making two staves in the score and only two printed parts (with copies,
> of course so each player gets a part to practice from.)
>
> My opinion as a conductor, is that I can work most easily and quickly
> when my score shows EXACTLY what the instrumentalists see, so if my
> score is horn I/II on a single staff, the instrumentalists should see
> the same on their parts.  That way I can more clearly be sure we all
> understand which part should play which notes.
>
> That should make your inputting job much easier.
>
> If for any reason you feel the parts need their own staves, and maybe
> even their own separate pieces of paper, what you would do would be to
> create your score the way you want it (i.e. multiple parts on single
> staves) and then extract the parts to their own files.
>
> Then, to keep on with the horn I/II example, you would open the part
> file and then you would explode the music so that each horn part was on
> its own staff and from here you would extract the second staff to its
> own file and then delete the second staff from the hornI/II file.
>
> But by all means get the score to look exactly as you want it -- it has
> been my experience that it is far easier to work with extracted parts
> than to create a score to extract parts from and then from that score to
> attempt to force it into my desired end result.
>
> Others may feel completely different on this issue, and I do hope others
> chime in with different working methods.
>
>
>
> Alain Mayrand wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been trying to develop a better working method when it comes to
> > inputing orchestral scores. I have been using lots of keyboard shortcuts
> > and macros (thanks to Tobias' tools) and whatever can make the job
easier...
> >
> >
> >
> > I am, however, still unsure about what is the best layout for my score
> > from which to extract parts. I am currently writing the score with each
> > instrument getting its own part, so that extracting the parts will be no
> > problem. But then my score has an unusual format since it has four horn
> > lines, 3 trumpet and trombone lines and, well, you get the picture. I
> > can then (with some noodling) combine these parts unto one staff to make
> > a more readable score, but I am not sure this is the most elegant
solution.
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope I explained my dilemma succinctly enough but with clarity.
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope we can share working methods for inputing orchestral scores.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Alain Mayrand, composer
> >
> > www.alainmayrand.com <http://www.alainmayrand.com>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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