thanks mr. bailey. i'm currently doing it as you suggest. but somehow i thought there would be a better way, less in a work-around manner. thanks again, marcelo
----- Original Message ----- From: David H. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: M. Perticone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] orchestral efficiency - more > Once the part is optimized, you can edit the staff name for individual > staves and not affect the others. Or is that group names? I can't > remember, but you will be able to change the labels so they are correct. > > > > > M. Perticone wrote: > > > hello list, > > > > i need to solve something closely related to this thread. > > > > i would put two parts in a single staff, say, flutes I/II. but some passages > > are too way polyphonic and complex, so sharing the same staff would result > > in a messy layout. i know i can write those parts in two different staves, > > and at last, optimizing would hide the the non-used staff. but as you can > > see, i would have to accomodate those parts in a single page, and a problem > > with staves names remains, as the first staff will say flutes I - II, and > > the other one, flute II. is there a better choice or procedure? > > thanks in advance for any advice, > > > > regards, > > marcelo > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David H. Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Alain Mayrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 8:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [Finale] orchestral efficiency > > > > > > > >>Orchestral instrumental parts are not always printed on separate staves, > >>so perhaps you need to rethink your modus operandi. > >> > >>Often Flutes 1 and 2 are on the same staff on a single part, same with > >>most woodwind and brass parts. So the horn parts are often Horn I/II > >>and III/IV in newer works and Horn I/III and II/IV in older works, > >>making two staves in the score and only two printed parts (with copies, > >>of course so each player gets a part to practice from.) > >> > >>My opinion as a conductor, is that I can work most easily and quickly > >>when my score shows EXACTLY what the instrumentalists see, so if my > >>score is horn I/II on a single staff, the instrumentalists should see > >>the same on their parts. That way I can more clearly be sure we all > >>understand which part should play which notes. > >> > >>That should make your inputting job much easier. > >> > >>If for any reason you feel the parts need their own staves, and maybe > >>even their own separate pieces of paper, what you would do would be to > >>create your score the way you want it (i.e. multiple parts on single > >>staves) and then extract the parts to their own files. > >> > >>Then, to keep on with the horn I/II example, you would open the part > >>file and then you would explode the music so that each horn part was on > >>its own staff and from here you would extract the second staff to its > >>own file and then delete the second staff from the hornI/II file. > >> > >>But by all means get the score to look exactly as you want it -- it has > >>been my experience that it is far easier to work with extracted parts > >>than to create a score to extract parts from and then from that score to > >>attempt to force it into my desired end result. > >> > >>Others may feel completely different on this issue, and I do hope others > >>chime in with different working methods. > >> > >> > >> > >>Alain Mayrand wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Hello all, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>I have been trying to develop a better working method when it comes to > >>>inputing orchestral scores. I have been using lots of keyboard shortcuts > >>>and macros (thanks to Tobias' tools) and whatever can make the job > >>> > > easier... > > > >>> > >>> > >>>I am, however, still unsure about what is the best layout for my score > >>>from which to extract parts. I am currently writing the score with each > >>>instrument getting its own part, so that extracting the parts will be no > >>>problem. But then my score has an unusual format since it has four horn > >>>lines, 3 trumpet and trombone lines and, well, you get the picture. I > >>>can then (with some noodling) combine these parts unto one staff to make > >>>a more readable score, but I am not sure this is the most elegant > >>> > > solution. > > > >>> > >>> > >>>I hope I explained my dilemma succinctly enough but with clarity. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>I hope we can share working methods for inputing orchestral scores. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Alain Mayrand, composer > >>> > >>>www.alainmayrand.com <http://www.alainmayrand.com> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>-- > >>David H. Bailey > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Finale mailing list > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Finale mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > > -- > David H. 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