>Guess I'm too old to worry who gets their knickers in a twist 
>because it doesn't look like what's in their dog-eared exercise 
>books.

there are also a lot of changes in the level of performers coming out 
of the unis in recent years (what happens to them after 27yrs in the 
orchestra is another thing maybe).  which could even make the present 
discussion "obsolete".  one can hope, no?

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