I use the Casio with a MIDI to USB cable. There is latency before I hear it through the computer so I turn that down and listen to the Casio directly while doing input. I also had some kind of Korg that was not amplified and could not tolerate the latency.
> -----Original Message----- > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of > Raymond Horton > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:32 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re: [Finale] MIDI woes > > It sounded like Phil was likely not playing in in real time. I have had a USB Akai > LPK25 for a couple of weeks, and the setup is instantaneous. I also have used an > old Casio, with a midi-to-usb adapter, and that often would take jumping through > hoops to get the computer or Finale to recognize. Are you able to use the Casio with > a non-usb input of some sort? I thought midi input cards had gone out with Culture > Club? > > Raymond Horton > Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT > rayhortonmusic.com > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Yates <rich...@yatesguitar.com> > wrote: > > I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult > > to get used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple > > different machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much > > latency to be really annoying and throw off efficiency of note entry. > > (I have never played the tuba either!). > > > > So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.' > > scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and > > speakers built in. > > > > Richard Yates > > > >> Chuck Israels: > >> I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either > >> Finale's > > MIDI > >> communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller > > keyboards, so I am > >> inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is > >> set > > up (though I > >> don't pretend to know what that might be). It's been a long time > >> since I > > have had > >> similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has > >> quickly > > solved the > >> problem. > >> > >> Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs. You may > >> find > > it > >> annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider > >> before > > saving a > >> little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more use. > > I use an M- > >> Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out > >> of > > range every now > >> and then. Of course, space and portability may also be an issue. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >> > >> On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass <bloke...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >> > I *think* that was what I tried before. The > >> > latency made it unusable. Maybe I didn't have > >> > it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I > >> > didn't have access to this fount of knowledge! > >> > > >> > I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5 > >> > different ones in my wish list. They are all under $100, and most > >> > are > >> > around the $60-70 mark. I just don't want to > >> > get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to > >> > use > > it. > >> > > >> > Phil. > >> > > >> > At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote: > >> >> You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25. $43 and > >> >> change at Musicians Friend. If you have a Guitar Center in town > >> >> they should match that price if you show them the site: > >> >> > >> >> <http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-l > >> >> pk2 5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Raymond Horton > >> >> Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, > >> >> Edwardsville > >> >> (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass > >> >> <bloke...@comcast.net> > >> wrote: > >> >>> Hi, > >> >>> > >> >>> I have one of those cheapo roll-up keyboards. I've had it for > >> >>> quite a while, but never tried it out. > >> >>> It's a bit too long, and > >> >>> droops off my desk, for one thing. I have been > >> >>> thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale. I > >> >>> don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time. Anyway, > >> >>> before spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber one. > >> >>> It works, or at least it plays by itself. Finale refuses to > >> >>> recognise it, though. Windows recognises it as a generic usb > >> >>> midi controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken > >> >>> by Finale. > >> >>> > >> >>> One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and > >> >>> out midi connectors on it. The keyboard only has a single midi port. > >> >>> If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad > >> >>> flashes, but it flashes as input. I assume that > >> >>> it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I could be wrong. > >> >>> It has happened once or twice before! If I plug the other end > >> >>> in, I don't get either light flashing. In both cases, it is > >> >>> playing the notes itself, but the program isn't interested. > >> >>> > >> >>> Like I said, I don't really care if this one works or not, but I > >> >>> don't want to spend money on a better one, if I can't get it to > >> >>> work. > >> >>> > >> >>> In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to directsound - if > >> >>> I use ASIO, I don't get any output from the program at all. For > >> >>> mike source, I have it set to primary sound capture driver - the > >> >>> only option. When I come back into it, this field has usually > >> >>> set itself to blank. > >> >>> > >> >>> Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I > >> >>> am missing? The user guide is not a lot of help on this subject. > >> >>> I tried a midi controller some years back, and returned it > >> >>> because my cakewalk would not recognise it. Oh, and it also had > >> >>> about 2 seconds of latency! > >> >>> > >> >>> Any advice welcome... > >> >>> > >> >>> Phil. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. > >> >>> Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> Finale mailing list > >> >>> Finale@shsu.edu > >> >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Finale mailing list > >> >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > > >> > > >> > "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. > >> > Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Finale mailing list > >> > Finale@shsu.edu > >> > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > > >> > >> Chuck Israels > >> 8831 SE 12th Ave. > >> Portland, OR 97202-7097 > >> > >> land line: (503) 954-2107 > >> cell phone: (360) 201-3434 > >> > >> <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
