I was *trying* to play in real time...

At 04:31 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
>It sounded like Phil was likely not playing in in real time.  I have
>had a USB Akai LPK25 for a couple of weeks, and the setup is
>instantaneous.  I also have used an old Casio, with a midi-to-usb
>adapter, and that often would take jumping through hoops to get the
>computer or Finale to recognize.  Are you able to use the Casio with a
>non-usb input of some sort?  I thought midi input cards had gone out
>with Culture Club?
>
>Raymond Horton
>Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
>Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
>Composer, Arranger
>VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
>
>
>On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Richard Yates 
><rich...@yatesguitar.com> wrote:
> > I have also found the latency in USB controllers to be too difficult to get
> > used to. I tried two controllers over the years on a couple different
> > machines and operating systems. For me it does not take much latency to be
> > really annoying and throw off efficiency of 
> note entry. (I have never played
> > the tuba either!).
> >
> > So, I continue to use an ancient Casio (I found the initials 'W.A.M.'
> > scratched in the bottom by some vandal) that has its own small amp and
> > speakers built in.
> >
> > Richard Yates
> >
> >> Chuck Israels:
> >> I don't believe that latency is a built in problem with either Finale's
> > MIDI
> >> communication pipeline or with most conventional MIDI controller
> > keyboards, so I am
> >> inclined to think there is something amiss in the way the software is set
> > up (though I
> >> don't pretend to know what that might be).  It's been a long time since I
> > have had
> >> similar difficulties, but in the past, a call to MM support has quickly
> > solved the
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> Perhaps a 25 key keyboard will be sufficient for your needs.  You may find
> > it
> >> annoying to have to switch octaves, so that's something to consider before
> > saving a
> >> little money on something that may prove less than ideal after more use.
> > I use an M-
> >> Audio Keystation 61 - reliable and efficient, but even that runs out of
> > range every now
> >> and then.  Of course, space and portability may also be an issue.
> >>
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Phil Buglass <bloke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I *think* that was what I tried before.  The
> >> > latency made it unusable.   Maybe I didn't have
> >> > it set up right, but there were no instructions with it - and I didn't
> >> > have access to this fount of knowledge!
> >> >
> >> > I had a scan through amazon this morning, and have saved 4 or 5
> >> > different ones in my wish list.  They are all under $100, and  most
> >> > are
> >> > around the $60-70 mark.   I just don't want to
> >> > get one until I know how it is that the system should be set up to  use
> > it.
> >> >
> >> > Phil.
> >> >
> >> > At 12:18 PM 3/27/2013, you wrote:
> >> >> You sound like a perfect candidate for the Akai LPK25.  $43 and
> >> >> change at Musicians Friend.  If you have a Guitar Center in town they
> >> >> should match that price if you show them the site:
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> <http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/akai-professional-lpk2>>  
>  >> 5-laptop-performance-keyboard?src=3WWRWXGP>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Raymond Horton
> >> >> Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville
> >> >> (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Phil Buglass <bloke...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I have one of those cheapo roll-up
> >> >>> keyboards.  I've had it for quite a while, but never tried it out.
> >> >>> It's a bit too long, and
> >> >>> droops off my desk, for one thing.   I have been
> >> >>> thinking of getting a small keyboard for inputting to Finale.  I
> >> >>> don't play piano, but I can play one line at a time.  Anyway, before
> >> >>> spending any more money, I decided to try out the rubber one.
> >> >>> It works, or at least it plays by itself.  Finale refuses to
> >> >>> recognise it, though.  Windows recognises it as a generic usb midi
> >> >>> controller, but for some reason the signal isn't being taken by
> >> >>> Finale.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> One thing is, the usb/midi cable I have has a fork with in and out
> >> >>> midi connectors on it.  The keyboard only has a single midi port.
> >> >>> If I plug one end of the Y in, the led on the doodad
> >> >>> flashes, but it flashes as input.   I assume that
> >> >>> it is talking about input into the keyboard, but I could be wrong.
> >> >>> It has happened once or twice before!  If I plug the other end in, I
> >> >>> don't get either light flashing.  In both cases, it is playing the
> >> >>> notes itself, but the program isn't interested.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Like I said, I don't really care if this one works or not, but I
> >> >>> don't want to spend money on a better one, if I can't get it to
> >> >>> work.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In the audio setup dialogue, I have input set to directsound - if I
> >> >>> use ASIO, I don't get any output from the program at all.  For mike
> >> >>> source, I have it set to primary sound capture driver - the only
> >> >>> option.  When I come back into it, this field has usually set itself
> >> >>> to blank.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is there some esoteric setting somewhere that I
> >> >>> am missing?   The user guide is not a lot of help on this subject.
> >> >>> I tried a midi controller some years back, and returned it because
> >> >>> my cakewalk would not recognise it.  Oh, and it also had about 2
> >> >>> seconds of latency!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Any advice welcome...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Phil.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
> >> >>> Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
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