Hi Chuck, Thanks for reaching out with your requests. I and others at MakeMusic subscribe to this list and have been following the thread. I subscribe in digest form and read every update.
I'm sorry you are disappointed with the new Finale. We are aware of the printing issues are are working to fix them. We are also aware of the the desire for more customizable pallets, both in size and color and, while not on the roadmap for the immediate future (v25.1 or v25.2), we are certainly discussing ways that this can be achieved. Part of my job is to prioritize bug fixes and features given available resources. While I'd love to fix every bug and issue submitted, for this release, other issues took precedence over developing smarter tuplet bracket hooks. Best, Mark Adler *Mark F. Adler* Notation Product Manager/Sr. Editor *D* 303 • 579 • 4829 www.makemusic.com [image: MakeMusic Logo] <http://www.makemusic.com/> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net> wrote: > Hah! Jef, no you haven’t, but I do appreciate that there may be some > deserved sarcasm in your message. > > I have been a Finale user since v 1.0 (it cost something like $1000 when > it was first released, if I remember correctly, and that probably > translates into quite a bit more in today’s dollars). I have gotten to > know a few of the Coda Music people, then MM people over the years - > sometimes at conventions where they were demonstrating Finale, sometimes > through correspondence, and always found them to be friendly and committed > to making something that is such a help to me in my work that I have been > forgiving of what are sometimes obvious shortcomings. And I have been > optimistic in assuming that the goals of the company have not been so > different from mine that my input would fail to be heard and taken into > account. > > I have accepted the financially driven orientation towards what I consider > to be lowest common denominator educational use, even understanding that > this might be pulling attention and resources away from elements that are > essential to me. (Like most on this list, I have no use for many of the > superficial school-y stuff.) > > Another thing that keeps me faithful, and perhaps blindly optimistic, is > that I just do not want to learn a new piece of complex software. I have > acquired a little sense of how Finale works “under the hood” - enough so > that I can usually beat it into submission when I have something to do that > Finale is reluctant to do in a straightforward fashion. Sibelius doesn’t > seem to be better to me - (I could be wrong - don’t really know), and I > don’t want to spend weeks learning new working methods in order to find > out. Spreadbury’s promised new software will not include chord symbols, > and it will present the sam obstacle of learning new methods of controlling > it. At this point, not an attractive alternative to me. > > Now - after considerable fanfare and what seems to me to have been a long > wait, I am underwhelmed by some things in this release. And the printing > screw up seems inexcusable. Of course, there are workarounds, the easiest > of which may be to print from 2014.5. But to release a long awaited new > version with a blatant flaw in an essential element of the workflow is > certainly, at the very least, sloppy. Where were the beta testers? > > Of course, there are some obvious improvements in the new version. For > those of us, like me, who do not hear written music flawlessly in our > imagination, improved playback is helpful. And I imagine that speed > improvements may prove to be good. However - some other things for which > there has been a substantial volume of support have been ignored for > several years. MM admits that there have been many requests for the > restoration of the old, colorful, configurable tool pallets - perhaps > overly large for laptop users and relegated to the category of eye candy to > others, but a useful visual aid for anyone with less than 20/20 vision. > > Like many others, I have requests that seem reasonable to me that continue > to go unanswered. Mark Adler (always courteous and responsive) told me > that, though he understood and agreed with me about how Finale is > misdirected in how it handles the default spacing of tuplets with brackets, > and that he also understood how it could be fixed, that there was not time > to include it in this long waited and expensive release. That is a > disappointment. (If your bracket hooks are larger than 12 evpus - a half > space, then outside of staff vertical placement is inconsistent. I prefer > .75 space hooks, but I must now choose between hooks that look small to me > or constant fussing with the vertical placement of some tuplets where > Finale places the bracket correctly but misaligns the number relative to > the bracket, if the hooks are more than a half space long.) > > So, perhaps not so optimistic at the moment. I will send this to Mark > too, and while not naive, I do hope it has some salutary effect. > > Chuck > > > > On Aug 22, 2016, at 12:14 AM, SN jef chippewa < > shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > > > > > chuck, have i ever told you how much i admire your optimism? > > > >> ... this is a glaring bug and should get a quick repair. I will let > >> them know how damaging this is. > > > > -- > > > > neueweise -- fonts for new music (and traditional) notation > > [JAN 2016] v. 1.002 for Finale 2014.5 and PC > > http://newmusicnotation.com/fonts.html > > > > shirling & neueweise | http://newmusicnotation.com > > new music notation + arts management + translation > > [FB] http://facebook.com/neueweise | [TW] http://twitter.com/neueweise > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > Chuck Israels > cisra...@comcast.net > (360) 201-3434 > > 8831 SE 12th Ave. > Portland OR 97202 > > <chuckisraelsjazz.com> > > > >
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