At 11:19 AM -0800 11/8/05, Trevor Harmon wrote:
On Nov 8, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Brendan Cully wrote:
Let me be honest: I have an axe to grind, since I've got a number of
my own packages languishing in the submission queue for months. I'm
grateful for the feedback I've gotten, and eg dmacks has definitely
improved the quality of my packages. But lbdb probably doesn't need
another six month's of inspection...
I'm in the same situation. A number of my packages are still
Undergoing Validation. And likewise, I want to give a big public
thank-you to Daniel Macks, since he appears to be one of the few
(only?) developers who has been validating and committing the
packages I put in the tracker.
So here's my proposal for solving this problem: Give more people CVS
commit access. If you and I were allowed to help out with checking
in new and updated packages, then that's a good chunk that could be
removed from the tracker right there. Not only would we be able to
remove our own packages, but we'd also be able to help validate and
commit others, too. Now, I'm not as experienced with this as core
developers like Daniel, but I've learned a lot from him lately, and
I do guarantee that if I end up breaking something -- and this is
the only reason why CVS commit access is restricted, right? -- then
I'll be responsive and get it fixed quickly.
Perhaps we need to review the process of how people are granted
commit access. On the other hand, is there even a process? I'm not
sure what criteria a developer must meet before getting access. I
seem to remember reading something about being the maintainer of
some minimum number of packages, but I can't find any mention of
this on the Fink website now.
I agree, I had my first package approved and put in cvs on Monday,
thanks to Max Horn. It sat in the tracker for essentially 3 months
and until I emailed Max (who was picked at random). I have two
others waiting, one (openssl) is one that the maintainer wants to
move to someone else. The other is GNU Enterprise. I also would like
to take over one other project (indent). Max was going to approve
GNU Enterprise but he did not have the time to work on some
dependency problems and has abandoned me back to the list.
I am a core team member of GNU Enterprise with commit access to cvs
for some 5 or 6 years. I am also a core developer of another
sourceforge project (SlashMUD) and have been writing unix and mac
software for many many years and do not understand the process for
cvs access.
This not a complaint against the fink staff, but rather a problem
with the process and my frustration at not being able to help.
Neil
GNU Enterprise
http://www.gnuenterprise.org/
(Resume available on request)
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