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From: Eric Wachsmann [mailto:e...@flex-radio.com]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:15 AM
To: Lux, James P
Cc: Steve Kallal; Tim Ellison; kl7...@alaska.net; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] First look at the FLEX-3000 production units

Tell me then...  Where are the >4 channel 192kHz audio USB devices??

They don't exist because there's no market for them, not because they can't be 
built.  The audio recording business is dominated today by Apples using 
FireWire, so that's where the products are. Now that Apple is starting to do 
away with Firewire, I would expect USB to replace it.

In the ham software radio business you're depending on leveraging mass produced 
consumer electronics, so you have to use what's available (e.g. PCs, Windows, 
1394, etc.). And it's not just a hardware issue, you're also depending on mass 
produced consumer windows device drivers.

If one manufactured ones own audio interface (with whatever interface), you'd 
be stuck trying to write high performance real-time streaming drivers for it.  
Under Windows, that's a non-trivial process (as in many work months of full 
time effort, assuming you know about windows driver writing in the first 
place).  The fact that people have DPC latency problems is a sign that windows 
driver writing isn't easy, and that's for commercial products, where presumably 
they can spread the hundreds of thousands of dollar cost of driver development 
over many unit sales.

For a small product line, it's not worth it.  Say it costs $100K to get a good 
driver written (that's about 3-4 months of a fulltime driver consultant at 
$150-200/hr).  If your sales are 500 units, that driver, alone, costs 
$200/unit.  That kind of cost isn't sustainable except if the product is a ? 
$5000/each kind of thing.  (and strangely enough, if you go out and buy high 
performance data acquisition or test equipment for $20K from Agilent or NI, it 
tends to have pretty decent driver support).


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