On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:48:33 +0000 (UTC), Martin wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> "Curtis Olson" wrote:
> 
> > I believe this is the whole point of Pep bringing up the subject on
> > the FlightGear mailing list.  He would like to work towards a
> > concrete proposal, and this is the preliminary discussion phase.
> > Let's not beat up the messenger [too much], ok! :-)
> 
> I'm sorry if this was the 'sound' of my posting - this was definitely
> not the intention. After 'investigating' a bit I'm getting the
> impression that the "inner circle", how you call it, at IVAO thinks
> everyone's going to kiss their feet if they just permit FlightGear
> users to join their network ....  which might turn out not to happen
> this way  :-)
> 
> Finally people like Pep are left pretty much alone in thin air while
> trying to lay the path for such process: Even though it's their duty,
> the "inner circle" simply didn't bother about preparing the messenger
> with appropriate information. Therefore my proposal to the messenger
> would be to let him request a detailed set of instructions and limits
> - now he knows that the closed-source library won't make it.

..he could also ask on http://groklaw.net/ for advice on how best 
to convince IVAO's "inner circle" they need to use open, public 
and validate-able signal protocols "to bring FG on-board IVAO."

..or, maybe the right thing to do, is have their community, 
join us? ;o)

..I _so_ enjoyed reading about 5, 3, 2, 1, .69 second boot-up 
times; "Where could all this lead us all, with boot up times 
going from minutes to milliseconds?"  ;o)
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4123264934.html
http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5907201615.html 
Maybe next years laptops can do this, and FlightGear, in a sec? ;o)

> As long as the messenger has not been properly instructed about the
> limits he's permitted to act within during negotiations, I'd say the
> whole situation is far too foggy.

..I agree.

> On the other hand, it's obvious that FlightGear (the "inner
> circle"  :-) would be in duty to propose some sort of authentication
> layer for their network protocol(s) if people would like to make
> collaboration with IVAO happen. Let the religious war begin ....  ;-))
> 
> Cheers,
>       Martin.


-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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