On 12/21/2009 02:36 PM, Anders Gidenstam wrote:

> It seems to work ok here. 

Interesting....

> Are you sure you don't have some noisy input 
> device like a joystick or pedals connected that might affect the 
> rudder axis?
> If two input axes are bound to the same control the last write wins.

Thanks for the hint.  That helps.  It makes sense from 
a developers' point of view.

However ... we still have a bug from the users' point of 
view.  The documentation explicitly mentions the case 
where the user has a rudder input device but lacks the 
skill to "handle the proper ratio" ... and recommends
--enable-auto-coordination in this case.  

If users are required to have zero-noise ailerons and
zero-noise rudders, this is quite a serious restriction.  
This should be prominently mentioned in the documentation.  
Users will not be pleased.

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I just now spent some time looking into this, and found
a few surprises.  When auto-coordination is turned on:

1) The feature is implemented as an aileron-rudder 
 interconnect with a fixed ratio (half a unit of rudder 
 per unit of aileron) in the aileron->rudder direction
 and not vice versa.  This is not very sophisticated 
 or very useful.  In almost every aircraft I can think 
 of, it is literally worse than useless in cruising 
 flight.  It makes the coordination worse.

 If this is the desired behavior, I would hate to see
 what undesired behavior looks like.

 The documentation indicates that auto-coordination is 
 supposed to make the coordination better.  It doesn't.

2) It has the remarkable side-effect that while taxiing,
 you can steer by deflecting the ailerons!  This is
 unrealistic and unhelpful;  better ways of doing the
 steering are readily available.

3) While taxiing, you can steer using the rudder in the
 usual way, overriding auto-coordination ... provided
 you don't touch the ailerons!  That is counterintuitive,
 undocumented, and unhelpful.  The FAA says you should
 be deflecting the ailerons when taxiing, if there is
 any crosswind.

 You must not touch the ailerons, and must hope there
 is no noise on your joystick aileron axis.  This is
 in addition to the previous requirement for no noise
 on your rudder axis.

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How hard would it be to replace all this with something
useful?  I notice that several of the aircraft models
have yaw dampers.

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