On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 16:56 +0900, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:08 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote: > > The wrong idea of course is that people think we're just removing features > > for no apparent reason even though for instance fallback mode was never > > guarantee. We need to correct those misconceptions. > > Are you saying that a fallback mode was never guaranteed ? > > As I recall, providing a fallback was indeed a blocker for GNOME 3 > initial release... it was also around then that somehow gnome-shell > was included in gnome releases without the regular module proposal > period. > > Actually a non-negligible number of desktops as I understand running > gnome based desktops just don't have the graphics hardware > needed to run the shell (from my personal experience, in south > america many, if not even most of the public desktops found in > hostels etc, used by travelers... were actually running gnome). > > What has changed since the initial GNOME 3 release and now ?
A number of things already mentioned in the d-d-l thread and on the wiki page, but mainly loads of bug fixes to the LLVMpipe renderer, and a better idea which use cases we want to support. > Is gnome-shell now optimized and usable on said, older hardware ? There's a number of bugs blocking the 3.8 release about disabling animations in a number of cases (exported displays through VNC or SPICE, low-end machines). They're all linked from the wiki page and the bugzilla. > Perhaps what we need is not a person/group of people working > for 'good press' and telling people that we have their best interests > at heart, but rather a bit more transparency in how we make our > decisions... reinstating our module proposals might be a good > first step towards including the whole community and getting them > more involved in decision making again. There was a discussion 6 months ago where we decided to keep fallback mode, and another one happened about a month ago where we ended up deciding not to. _______________________________________________ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list