Hi, I agree with your opinion except three points :-)
1) Most users, who browse through internet and webpages, read only some parts of a page. And this paragraph should make publicity! If one is interested in FreeDOS, than (s)he will read also other pages, also FreeDOS's Wiki etc. a) If one is searching for a DOS, because (s) he wants to play a DOS game, then (s)he will use FreeDOS, even if there is no message including _old_. A "99%" or "100% compatiblity" message would be ok. b) If someone heard about FreeDOS and browse the frontpage (s)he doesn't want to read, that it is for old software, (s)he wants to read, what is possible and what (s)he can do. If you write f.e. : It is possbile to start Window's MPLAYER, than some people will think "Cool" and will be more interested in FreeDOS. ==>Conclusion for me: the frontpage should ONLY make publicity, if somebody needs information, then there is Wiki and other pages. 2) There is a driver from Paragon-DOS, which supports also Linux's file system. Only basics...but it is possible to access and copy files from these partitions. This would be also interesting for f.e. FreeDOS. 3) Yes, there are many things, which are easier in a DOS-Box. You have multitasking, etc. But: DOS should support this as an operating system. I don't like the idea, that an operating system needs another to be useable. ==> Maybe some things are easier, but it should be a goal to bring this things to DOS. And maybe there will be a developer who has the knowledge to do this. btw: Japheth is such a developer who makes things possible with HX-Extender which seemed to be impossible. Bye Flo On 3/29/07, Eric Auer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Florian, > > > Please remove from freedos.org: > > >To run old DOS games (like DOOM, etc.) > > >To run old business software that only supports DOS > > The word "old" is very bad! > > No it is not. FreeDOS is one of very few ways to run > CLASSIC software which no longer runs properly in DOS > windows of Windows and which is too complex for for > example dosbox. So it is good to have DOS to be able > to run old software. On the other hand, you are right, > people have to be aware that DOS is also a very nice > lightweight system for doing MODERN things as well. > > Your use examples: File managing - well I prefer Unix > filesystems, so... Audio player: Yes cool for a party > night but most of the time I want to surf and email > simultaneously ;-). Developing / editing: it can be > nice to have a full screen text editor as the only > thing on your screen (our EDIT supports having multiple > text windows open simultaneously :-)), less distraction > compared to Windows / Linux where people often have > many things open... WWW, email: as said, I prefer to > do online things in an OS where I can do other things > like music playing and text editing and running DOS > simultaneously. > > > And there should be also a _vision_ at the homepage. f.e. adding > > of new features. > > Then we should link to the post 1.0 todo / wishlist Wiki page. > > > version 1.0....but will this be all? > > I want 1.1 with updates, bugfixes, better docs and usability. > > > What are the goals? > > For me, having drivers for some more modern hardware, like > a virtual SB16 to real AC97 audio bridge (use jemm386 and > mpxplay for inspiration) and better USB / PCMCIA / SATA / > UDMA drivers. In the long run also adding FreeBASIC and > ClamAV CLAMSCAN and a dosfsck based SCANDISK of good quality > and with good QBASIC compatibility. BASIC is no really cool > language and many people will recommend REXX, BASH or PERL > for modern DOS users, but there are many old Basic source > code files which people want to keep using. There should > also be a good mix of power features and reasonably easy > use and good documentation. No need to transmogrify your > Vista or Linux boot menu by magically touching NTFS or > Reiser or whatever partitions. Also, NTFSresize is best > done with Linux. But then, why don't we add one of those > nice "toolbox Linux" distros to our own fdfullcd.iso for > that? > > Another thing which should be better than in 1.0 is to > have an easy way to do an install which from some point > on asks almost no questions and which does NOT use > internet nor USB during the "unzip" part of the install. > Would make installing fast and more "foolproof". You can > always add drivers later if you are a poweruser, and if > you only want to replace your old MS DOS 6, you will not > need to download, say, ASPI drivers anyway, because you > will already have them and will know how to use them. > > See also: > http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies > http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall > > > Maybe defrag lacks fat32 support (without bugs). > > I seem to remember thatDefrag is totally slow for fat32 but > that it does have fat32 support now. Next would be undelete, > if anybody wants to add fat32 support there, I would be happy > to explain which parts of the code have to be changed how. > > > important things, like sound/hardware-drivers, other file systems > > or multimedia-player or browser or taskmanager > > Agreed on the sound drivers, but not on the filesystems. > DOS is DOS and is meant to be DOS. You will not want to > have a multiuser DOS with access control lists in the > filesystem and everything. Making MPLAYER run better in > HXRT is certainly interesting but luckily already ongoing. > There already is the Arachne browser and viewers like LXPIC. > > For the task manager, I think it is a lot better and a lot > easier to just run several DOSEMU windows simultaneously. > Resizeable and everything :-). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
