I agree that "old" is ugly.

I use FreeDOS for new and big programs, with databases of a few Giga 
bytes on superfast Pentium-4 and AMDs

And I plan to use for many years more... Which other system allows to 
intall a full system from bare metal in half an hour by phone, with an 
*unskilled* operator?

Alain

Eric Auer escreveu:
> Hi Florian,
> 
>> Please remove from freedos.org:
>>> To run old DOS games (like DOOM, etc.)
>>> To run old business software that only supports DOS
>> The word "old" is very bad!
> 
> No it is not. FreeDOS is one of very few ways to run
> CLASSIC software which no longer runs properly in DOS
> windows of Windows and which is too complex for for
> example dosbox. So it is good to have DOS to be able
> to run old software. On the other hand, you are right,
> people have to be aware that DOS is also a very nice
> lightweight system for doing MODERN things as well.
> 
> Your use examples: File managing - well I prefer Unix
> filesystems, so... Audio player: Yes cool for a party
> night but most of the time I want to surf and email
> simultaneously ;-). Developing / editing: it can be
> nice to have a full screen text editor as the only
> thing on your screen (our EDIT supports having multiple
> text windows open simultaneously :-)), less distraction
> compared to Windows / Linux where people often have
> many things open... WWW, email: as said, I prefer to
> do online things in an OS where I can do other things
> like music playing and text editing and running DOS
> simultaneously.
> 
>> And there should be also a _vision_ at the homepage. f.e. adding
>> of new features.
> 
> Then we should link to the post 1.0 todo / wishlist Wiki page.
> 
>> version 1.0....but will this be all?
> 
> I want 1.1 with updates, bugfixes, better docs and usability.
> 
>> What are the goals?
> 
> For me, having drivers for some more modern hardware, like
> a virtual SB16 to real AC97 audio bridge (use jemm386 and
> mpxplay for inspiration) and better USB / PCMCIA / SATA /
> UDMA drivers. In the long run also adding FreeBASIC and
> ClamAV CLAMSCAN and a dosfsck based SCANDISK of good quality
> and with good QBASIC compatibility. BASIC is no really cool
> language and many people will recommend REXX, BASH or PERL
> for modern DOS users, but there are many old Basic source
> code files which people want to keep using. There should
> also be a good mix of power features and reasonably easy
> use and good documentation. No need to transmogrify your
> Vista or Linux boot menu by magically touching NTFS or
> Reiser or whatever partitions. Also, NTFSresize is best
> done with Linux. But then, why don't we add one of those
> nice "toolbox Linux" distros to our own fdfullcd.iso for
> that?
> 
> Another thing which should be better than in 1.0 is to
> have an easy way to do an install which from some point
> on asks almost no questions and which does NOT use
> internet nor USB during the "unzip" part of the install.
> Would make installing fast and more "foolproof". You can
> always add drivers later if you are a poweruser, and if
> you only want to replace your old MS DOS 6, you will not
> need to download, say, ASPI drivers anyway, because you
> will already have them and will know how to use them.
> 
> See also:
> http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdDependencies
> http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=FdDocEn.FdInstall
> 
>> Maybe defrag lacks fat32 support (without bugs).
> 
> I seem to remember thatDefrag is totally slow for fat32 but
> that it does have fat32 support now. Next would be undelete,
> if anybody wants to add fat32 support there, I would be happy
> to explain which parts of the code have to be changed how.
> 
>> important things, like sound/hardware-drivers, other file systems
>> or multimedia-player or browser or taskmanager
> 
> Agreed on the sound drivers, but not on the filesystems.
> DOS is DOS and is meant to be DOS. You will not want to
> have a multiuser DOS with access control lists in the
> filesystem and everything. Making MPLAYER run better in
> HXRT is certainly interesting but luckily already ongoing.
> There already is the Arachne browser and viewers like LXPIC.
> 
> For the task manager, I think it is a lot better and a lot
> easier to just run several DOSEMU windows simultaneously.
> Resizeable and everything :-).
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
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