On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 10:41:01PM -0500, Travis Bemann wrote:
>
> <RANT>
> The people at Tianenmen (sp?) Square all got killed because they were
> stupid and naive. They thought that the Chinese gov't was going to be
> all nice and such. They were so fucking wrong. The only way that
> they could have won is if they had effectively started a civil war by
> first neutralizing the Chinese political leadership (read: burning the
> houses of and assassinating political leaders and functionaries as
> well as military leaders and officers en masse (the en mass part is
> *very* important - if there is anyone left to replace the people who
> have been killed, then all of this is for nothing)) and doing
> preemptive strikes (read: large bombings meant to kill hundreds or
> even thousands (of troops) at a time as well as to destroy the
> majority of the Chinese gov'ts vehicles and aircraft while in storage
> or inactive on the ground) against Chinese military and government
> facilities. Of course, all of this requires large amounts of
> planning, secrecy, and coordination. There is also the problem of
> getting all your guns and explosives without anyone noticing. Yes, a
> lot of people on their side would have also been killed, but they
> would have had a real chance for victory. Of course, they could still
> make the same mistake that the Paris Commune made - they would still
> be doomed if they were limited to an area such as a single city and
> its suburbs which could be encircled by government troops. Note that
> doing this kind of stuff preemptively is extremely important - you
> need to do it before the government and the military can react - you
> need to avoid the battlefield like the plague. Remember that the
> government has tanks and bombers while you do not.
> </RANT>
>
I'm feeling some bad energy from the people on this list. I think they knew what they
were getting into, and would have rather died than put up with persecution any longer.
I think what Ian is trying to say is that you have to put it all on the line to fight
for your rights.
eric
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