Hi again

different weighting sorta kinda worked better. It might be a dud brain.  

But on this topic - I realized I wasn't quite sure of a couple of things, and 
had some errors pop up with some tkregister2 options.

[btw, running stable 5.2.0 on snow leopard]

1) I first tried to check the reg to the gca, and got the following error 
message. It looks like maybe this is an old/deprecated option given the 
hard-coded path to the 5.0.0 linux version (I saw a posting from Doug from a 
few years ago on this) 


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[rancate:/Applications/freesurfer/subjects] fred% tkregister2 --check-reg --gca 
dancar
tkregister_tcl /Applications/freesurfer/tktools/tkregister2.tcl
INFO: LTA input is not RAS to RAS...converting...
target  volume /Applications/freesurfer/subjects/dancar/mri/T1.mgz
movable volume 
/usr/local/freesurfer-5.0.0-cent4-64/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca
reg file       /tmp/reg.tmp.1367946635.dat
LoadVol        1
ZeroCRAS       0
$Id: tkregister2.c,v 1.121.2.1 2011/03/28 20:25:16 greve Exp $
Diagnostic Level -1
GCAread(/usr/local/freesurfer-5.0.0-cent4-64/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca): 
could not open file
No such file or directory
ERROR: could not read 
/usr/local/freesurfer-5.0.0-cent4-64/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca as 22
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2) I also tried to load up the gca in tkmedit using the appropriate gui option, 
but nothing happened (no error messages either)

3) Then tried another trick that Doug suggested a while ago on the message 
boards:

tkregister2 --mov $FREESURFER_HOME/average/RB_all_2008-03-26.gca --targ 
$SUBJECTS_DIR/dancar/mri/brain.mgz --lta-inv 
$SUBJECTS_DIR/dancar/mri/transforms/talairach.lta --check-reg 

and got "ERROR: Option --lta-inv unknown" 

4) I finally tried using the talairach.lta as a transform to the fsl target, 
using some old default-processed brains to make sure it was correct-ish:

tkregister2 --check-reg --lta transforms/talairach.lta --mov ./T1.mgz --fsl-targ

This seemed in the ballpark - except when I looked at bert, who I assumed would 
be canonical, and transform was clearly not correct. (Given Doug's earlier 
command, it seemed like talairach.lta was the inverse transform of what I 
thought it was, e.g., sub => standard). 

So I'm slightly stymied. 

Thanks tons,

Fred




On 29 Apr 2013, at 15:06, Fred Dick <ubjt...@mail.bbk.ac.uk> wrote:

> Aha, I shall quickly try with the non -w weighting and see what happens. 
> Thanks! 
> On 29 Apr 2013, at 15:05, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
> 
>> yes, the -w will create an optimal weighting to maximize gray/white 
>> contrast. The image it generates won't in general be physically realizable 
>> in an real MR acquisition. Not surprising that the tal stuff fails
>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Fred Dick wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bruce
>>> 
>>> I'm using TR=20, flip=30, TE=5 - but possibly irrelevant as also have the 
>>> -w flag on.
>>> 
>>> I originally thought this was from a bad brainmask, but then generated a 
>>> good one and same thing happening.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2013, at 14:27, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Fred
>>>> 
>>>> we don't have much experience with this. Which synthesis are you using? 
>>>> You might need to use a different one for the talairaching to more closely 
>>>> match the atlas (maybe a TR=20,TE=2.5,flip=20-30 one)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Fred Dick wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm having difficulties getting correct Talairach.lta's from synthetic 
>>>>> flash volumes (Bruce, you are probably sorry you ever told me about 
>>>>> this!).  Basically the brain is over-scaled (bigger than it should be), 
>>>>> which I think is happening because the contrast is so good (gm much 
>>>>> darker than wm).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there an example of how to use the -flash_parms flag, and what 
>>>>> mri_em_register is expecting in the parameter file?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fred
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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