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Hi Martin,

I wanted to ping this thread again, to confirm that my proposed
mass-univariate workflow using the subcortical segmented ROIs is
appropriate for the LME longitudinal analysis.

Thanks again.

Dan

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 5:44 AM Dan Levitas <djlevitas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks for your reply, it's good to know that the mass-univariate approach
> is still appropriate here.
>
> Since the aseg segmentations are volumetric, can I still use the
> *mris_preproc* and *mri_surf2surf* functions? If so, would the
> mri_preproc function look something like *mri_preproc --qdec-long
> /path/to/asegstats2table.long.table --target fsaverage --hemi rh --meas
> volume --out output_dir/rh.volume.mgh*
>
> If not, and I need separate functions, would *mri_surf2surf* be replaced
> by *mri_vol2surf*?
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 4:51 AM Reuter, Martin,Ph.D. <
> mreu...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> You could do either one. I would recommend the mass univariate for
>> multiple independent test with the same design.
>>
>> Best, Martin
>>
>> On 26. Jun 2024, at 17:20, Dan Levitas <djlevitas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I recently performed an LME longitudinal mass-univariate (surface)
>> analysis and am now trying to do something similar, but with subcortical
>> (aseg) ROIs instead.
>>
>> I first created an aseg table with the following command:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * asegstats2table \ --sd $subjects_dir \ --qdec-long
>> /path/to/long.qdec.table.dat \ --segno 4 10 11 12 17 18 26 43 49 50 51 53
>> 54 58 251 253 255 \ --stats aseg.stats \ --tablefile $output_file*
>>
>>
>> The LME tutorial (
>> https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/LinearMixedEffectsModels)
>> provides information and examples of both a univariate and mass-univariate
>> approach. While univariate seems most appropriate in this case, the example
>> details design matrix setup and testing of a single ROI (hippocampus),
>> whereas I would like to assess several subcortical ROIs.
>>
>> Would I simply create a loop structure to set up design matrices for each
>> ROI (both hemispheres) and test them individually, or can I perform a
>> mass-univariate approach to assess all ROIs at once?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
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