On Mon 28.07.2003 at 02:58:26PM +0100, Q wrote:
> > On Mon 28.07.2003 at 02:41:32PM +0200, Dirk Meyer wrote:
> > > They are testing copy protected audio cds in Germany right now. I bet
> > > until the end they have the same in Canada for all new stuff.
> > 
> > Same in France (where I'm from) and in Finland (where I live). Or do you
> > think about yet another Audio CD protection system?
> > 
> > > Don't ship anything with Freevo that may be illegal. I'm also not
> > > happy with the mplayer shipped with Freevo, because this mplayer
> > > contains DeCSS and in 3 days for now, it's illegal in Germany to
> > > distribute software that can bypass copyprotection. [1].
> > 
> > MPlayer, as is, is infringing patents about MPEG4 in the U.S. (and Japan
> > too), because of ffmpeg and xvid. But this is still legal in Europe (but
> > might become illegal after the vote in the European Parliament in
> > September :( ).
> > 
> > One solution is to host the runtime in a country which has not such
> > restrictions, or tell people to get and compile their own mplayer if
> > they want to watch DVDs, and distribute an mplayer without DeCSS. And
> > tell U.S. citizens that they are not allowed to download mplayer anyway.
> > 
> > I know this is not user-friendly, since it will break the "0 config"
> > feature of Freevo.
> > 
> > > Yes, we in Germany beat you guys in America in this point of stupidity
> > > :-(
> > 
> > DMCA in USA *is* that stupid too, AFAIK. But France is following the
> > same path than Germany. Only Finland refused the EUCD at first (but it
> > will come anyway later I suppose).
> > 
> > > Footnotes:
> > > [1]  This law is very stupid, and I hope it will change back. I buy a
> > >      DVD, I buy a DVD-ROM, but I'm not allowed to watch my DVD with
> > >      mplayer.
> > 
> > Actually you are, if you pay the right to do so...
>
> Well look, the sensible thing is not to get too worked up over the
> legalities.

Well, you don't risk anything if someone decides to sue Freevo. But the
maintainers might.

> To my mind this is all part of MS and big business' DRM plans, that much to
> MS' glee are apparently set to destroy the potential for Linux to act as a
> desktop OS, or for it to have any multi-media capacity at all. Deliberate or
> not (and perhaps from MS' and other's stand point, its purely beneficial)
> that is exactly the direction we're headed in.

Don't see MS everywhere. They are a big company, but they are not yet
running the whole world. Don't forget RIAA and MPAA, which are more
likely to sue Freevo than MS, if this ever happens.

Matthieu
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