On Jul 17, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Owen Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> No one who accepts mathematics as it is, however, considers it a >> point >> of philosophy. We do not argue about it, we try to grasp it. >> >> Arguing about it is for those of us who cannot understand it. >> > I suspect a category error: was Goedel's theorem mathematics or an > argument > about mathematics?
The former. I do admit Gödel creates an interesting problem (not argument) for mathematicians: You MUST be careful about your axioms, and you should be aware of the problems they present. My hazy understanding of Gödel's work is that basically an axiom set can be over-specified (thus creating the potential for both T and !T being provable) or under-specified (T is true but not provable). This is old stuff for linear algebraists. All that said, how many mathematicians are halted in their tracks by Gödel, giving up all as foolish and pointless? Rather they use it as a cautionary tale, much like computer scientists dealing with decidability. -- Owen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org