God, thats amazing speed.

I wonder if the cell providers might eventually take over broadband to the
home?  I know there are "cell  modem" like critters that work as home
broadband (Carl uses one).  Currently they are expensive for massive use
(movies etc).

But with the failure of good broadband availability in much of the US,
anyway, it seems a compelling market.

   -- Owen

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Douglas Roberts <d...@parrot-farm.net>wrote:

> So, after bitching about WiFi on the Nexus 4 earlier today, I'm now
> sitting in the Airport Hyatt in Abq getting 14 Mbps down, and 2 Mbps up
> with a solid HSPA+ T-Mobile connection, and guess what: everything works.
> Google is an idiot for not fixing WiFi on this phone.
> On Feb 23, 2013 6:02 PM, "Douglas Roberts" <d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>
>> That was next on my list, after getting Pandora running over WiFi to my
>> Bluetooth speakers.  :)
>> On Feb 23, 2013 5:52 PM, "Gillian Densmore" <gil.densm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> gasp didn't root it to make a beowolf cluster?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Douglas Roberts 
>>> <d...@parrot-farm.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep, that's my one remaining complaint, Roger.  And my list of phones
>>>> that can run wifi and bluetooth simultaneously is the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1) My previous phone, HTC Thunderbolt, running Android Gingerbread 2.3
>>>>
>>>> Of course, that's the only other Android phone I've owned, so it's a
>>>> short list.
>>>>
>>>> --Doug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roger Critchlow <r...@elf.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Doug --
>>>>>
>>>>> So your complaint at this point, now that you've rooted and installed
>>>>> a custom ROM, is that the phone can't do WiFi and Bluetooth at the same
>>>>> time?
>>>>>
>>>>> WiFi and Bluetooth both use the same frequencies (2.1 GHz unregulated
>>>>> band) and I've seen specs where they're implemented in the same radio,
>>>>> which would mean that you could have one or the other, but not both at the
>>>>> same time.  It wouldn't surprise me if that were the standard
>>>>> implementation of cell phone WiFi and Bluetooth, especially since I've
>>>>> never seen a spec that specified two separate radios for WiFi and 
>>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>>>
>>>>> My HTC Nexus One, the one that eventually went through the wash, was
>>>>> able to stream audio over bluetooth when you plugged it into its cradle.
>>>>>  That worked fine if it was playing mp3's off the SDcard.  But if you 
>>>>> tried
>>>>> to stream Pandora from WiFi then you could hear the frequency at which the
>>>>> radio was multiplexing between WiFi and Bluetooth.  It was a magnificent
>>>>> attempt to make two digital systems stretch to create an analog illusion,
>>>>> but it didn't make it.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's two phones, Nexus 4 and Nexus One, where we've actually tried
>>>>> to run WiFi and Bluetooth at the same time and had problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, where's the list of phones that you've tested where WiFi and
>>>>> Bluetooth operated simultaneously with no problems?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- rec --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Douglas Roberts <
>>>>> d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And Steve is easy to pick out of the crowd:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Page Views:
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>>>>>> OS:
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>>>>>> Total Visits:
>>>>>> 15
>>>>>> Location:
>>>>>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, United States
>>>>>>  IP Address:
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>>>>>> Referring URL:
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>>>>>> Visit Page:
>>>>>>  things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/96-days-and-counting.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Owen Densmore 
>>>>>> <o...@backspaces.net>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like I.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Douglas Roberts <
>>>>>>> d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW Owen, I believe I've got you identified:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Page Views:
>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>> Entry Page Time:
>>>>>>>> 23 Feb 2013 11:03:59
>>>>>>>> Browser:
>>>>>>>> Chrome 25.0
>>>>>>>> OS:
>>>>>>>> MacOSX
>>>>>>>> Resolution:
>>>>>>>> 1440x900
>>>>>>>> Total Visits:
>>>>>>>> 11
>>>>>>>> Location:
>>>>>>>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, United States
>>>>>>>> IP Address:
>>>>>>>> Cyber Mesa Computer Systems, Incorporated (65.19.28.73) [Label IP
>>>>>>>> Address]
>>>>>>>> Referring URL:
>>>>>>>> (No referring link)
>>>>>>>> Visit Page:
>>>>>>>>  things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/96-days-and-counting.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Douglas Roberts <
>>>>>>>> d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I noticed that as well.  The Nexus (and Google) appear to be the
>>>>>>>>> black sheep of the cell phone flock.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Doug
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Owen Densmore <
>>>>>>>>> o...@backspaces.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After looking at the FixYa report I posted earlier
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.fixya.com/pr/feb2013/smartphone-manufacturer-report.html
>>>>>>>>>> .. it made me wonder what the relationship between the Samsung
>>>>>>>>>> Nexus and LG Nexus is?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The report felt it important to distinguish between the Galaxy
>>>>>>>>>> line and the Nexus line.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    -- Owen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Douglas Roberts <
>>>>>>>>>> d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There, fixed that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/96-days-and-counting.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
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