I've been lucky enough to talk to Stu (last time in January; we've corresponded within the week) about some of these ideas. He *is* careless with references. But I'm sure I've heard him mention Prigogine as he talked. These ideas have been fermenting for several years, and I'm not surprised he overlooks precedents.
I say lucky enough, because he's inspiring, and often enough, persuasive. God knows I don't understand everything he says, and long to edit what I do understand. But he's an alpine point hisownself, an endlessly provocative thinker, and I'm happy to overlook some lapses for the privilege of listening. Stu can be extremely generous. My first visit to the Santa Fe Institute was in 1991-92, and I can remember sitting alone in a room looking at stuff I'd never encountered before, and wondering WTF? But I could always knock on Stu's half-open door, and ask. He answered. Yes, it was very much part of the Institute ethos then, that you explained anything you could to anybody who asked, but that started a friendship I deeply value. Pamela On Mar 25, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com> wrote: > Quite a few of us on the list worked for Stu at BiosGroup a decade ago. I was > just a software geek there (not a scientist), so I'm not qualified to > criticize the veracity of his ideas, but I will say that he has an amazing > charisma and made many of us True Believers. "Rock Star" doesn't seem quite > right, but he did manage to inspire a lot of us with a cheerful but humble > confidence. Maybe "demigod" would be more like it. Of course, the fact that > it was a startup and we all had visions of IPOs (sadly never happened) > dancing in our heads probably added to his appeal. > > ;; Gary > > On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote: >>> Kaufman also neglects Prigogine in his books. >>> >>> Curt >>> >>> Glen wrote: >>> >>> > Stu Kauffman on the varieties of laws and entailments. >>> >>> Wow, seriously? A paper on the exact same subject as Robert Rosen's big >>> works and not a single citation of Rosen, even to call him wrong? What >>> am I missing? >> Have you *met* Stu? My experience is that he does not reference his >> sources very thoroughly (even to dismiss them). He's a rock star (in his >> own mind)... does Mick Jagger acknowledge his influences (I actually don't >> know)? > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
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