_Causation and Explanation_ looks like a good book. Strangely, its
Amazon paperback
price<http://www.amazon.com/Causation-Explanation-Topics-Contemporary-Philosophy/dp/B008SLYJ4G/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=QIM4OPN4IQSS&coliid=I1V01X94UI8MFU>
is
only $13.52 even though its Amazon Kindle price is $28.80. (I just ordered
one of the 3 copies remaining in stock.)

I have no problem with the
manipulatist/Baysian/experimentalist/social-studies approach to causation.
It's a way to establish a connection between A and B that's stronger than
correlation. (More or less: if changing A changes B, then A is a cause of
B.)

But that doesn't explain how A causes B. It's in that sort of
how-explanation that I don't see scientific talk of causation.


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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:44 AM, glen <g...@ropella.name> wrote:

> Victoria Hughes wrote at 03/26/2013 11:27 AM:
> > 1. The discussion also references non-European, non-white-male models
> for awareness, reality, conceptual modeling, etc.
> > 2. The discussion does not devolve into intellectual posturing.
>
> This reminded me of the Ulam quote:
>
> "Talking about non-linear mathematics is like talking about non-elephant
> zoology." -- Stanislaw Ulam
>
> I willingly admit my ignorance.  But honestly, is there _any_ philosophy
> that is not, ultimately, intellectual posturing? ;-)  Or, further, is
> there any speech/verbiage whatsoever that is not, ultimately,
> intellectual posturing?
>
> I heard from somewhere a speculation that the emergence of human
> language replaced (to whatever extent) grooming.  If that's at all true,
> then I suppose there is some speech ... pillow talk, platitudes, or
> perhaps lyricism/poetry that is as much about physics (soothing and
> communion) as it is about the ideal of communication or intellect.  And
> I suppose one might believe (act as if) the expression of an ideal (an
> intellectual artifact) via words is somehow authentic as opposed to
> posturing.  But, when I examine my own behavior in the light of what I
> observe from others and vice versa, it's quite difficult to distinguish
> between the former (authentic expression) and the latter (posturing).
>
> But, I also admit my gullibility and naivete.
>
> --
> =><= glen e. p. ropella
> Like it's screwed itself in hell
>
>
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