Did I fail to mention that I keep backups of my backups?  I did, didn't I...

I am not paranoid, the odds *are* out to get you.

--Doug

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Barry MacKichan <
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote:

> 1. Is your 3TB drive off-site? Offsite backup is the problem to be solved,
> IMHO.
> 2. I imagine that the probability that your 3TB drive will be alive and
> functional in a year is less than 99.999999999% (not that I fully believe
> Amazon's claims, but they do monitor their disks and move the data when the
> error rate hits a certain threshold).
> 3. If my data is off-site, I want it encrypted. I'm not sure how to do
> that with rsync. We do use rsync nightly, however, to update our CTAN
> mirror.
>
> --Barry
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Douglas Roberts <d...@parrot-farm.net> wrote:
>
> Just curious why you Mac guys are buying backup systems, when there is a
> perfectly good way to use rsync. Here's my nightly backup script, which
> currently sends my nightly incrementals to a cheap 3TB USB3 external drive:
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> # Just in case they are not mounted
> /bin/mount /mnt/3TB >&/dev/null
> /bin/mount /mnt/Movies >&/dev/null
> /bin/mount /mnt/Video >&/dev/null
>
>
> #
> #/home/roberts
> #
> echo "Starting /home/roberts backup" >>/home/roberts/backup2.log
> date >>/home/roberts/backup2.log
>
> /usr/bin/rsync -vurltD --exclude-from=/home/roberts/.rsync/exclude
> /home/roberts /mnt/3TB >>/home/roberts/backup2.log 2>&1
>
>
> echo "Completed /home/roberts backup" >>/home/roberts/backup2.log
> date >>/home/roberts/backup2.log
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:
>
>>  My $.02 on Time Machine.
>>
>> I bought a 2TB time machine about 4? years ago and set up two MB Pro's
>> with it.  Other than a little irritation from accidental reboots on the
>> device (connected to the same power strip as my flakey motorola internet
>> service, yielding a reboot via powerstrip toggle sometimes), I've had
>> nothing but good look.
>>
>> I've only had one occasion to do a full restore in an emergency and it
>> worked like a charm.. I *have* used it to migrate between MB Pros and an
>> iMac about 5 or 6 times in the same period.  That has worked flawlessly as
>> well.
>>
>> It might be prudent to back that up somewhere offsite, but I'm just not
>> that prudent and now am spoiled to my regular "backup" and potential
>> "restores" being almost entirely invisible to me.  I can't tell from the
>> discussion on the list how "transparent" the true cloud services are,
>> unfortunately I'm pretty sure my totally lame internet would make *restore*
>> a long and painful experience.
>>
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>> I have one data point. One of our Macs near Seattle had a drive fail, so
>> I had an employee take it to an Apple store. The 'genius' was very happy
>> when he saw the Time Machine, and, I think, nothing was lost.
>>
>>  About the depth of cloud backups: I now use Arq on the Mac. The backups
>> are in Amazon's S3, and the frequency is settable: I have one done every
>> hour. You set a limit on how much space you want to use -- just as a Time
>> Machine has a fixed size -- and once you hit that limit, it will overwrite
>> the oldest versions as necessary. Also the paid version of DropBox keeps at
>> least some history. For saving a Time Machine offsite, Amazons Glacier
>> storage is one cent a gigabyte per month, so your 150 gigabytes would be
>> $18 per year. They really hit you with transfer charges if you try to read
>> a large amount in a short time, but since that presumably happens only when
>> your Mac and your time machine have both been roasted in a fire, you
>> probably will be happy to pay them. Unfortunately 150 gigs is not enough
>> for most time machines.
>>
>>  --Barry
>>
>>
>>  On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:42 AM, "Robert J. Cordingley" <
>> rob...@cirrillian.com> wrote:
>>
>> So has anyone successfully restored an entire system from the Cloud (or a
>> Time Machine come to think of it)?  How easy was it?  Any statistics on
>> success rate?
>>
>>
>>
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