A neural net trained to discriminate between nuances in one environment (H) 
would need to get re-trained (or I'd say untrained) to the D environment.   The 
signals in H type environments are higher dimensional, coupled, and non-linear 
compared to the D environment which is made up of many more independent and 
simpler hazards.    With finite resources, I expect the H-specialized M agent 
apparatus needs to be torn-down to make room for constant bombardment of 
D-world wild dogs.    Not really interpreted vs. compiled, more like a Java 
hotspot JIT that is constantly refining to the environment.   

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Right.  It's not quite right to suggest that switching codes is bimodal or 
bivalent.  I think it's more of a spectrum, at least in an informal sense.  If 
we were talking about a person trying to communicate a complex idea in a 
non-native language then switching to their native language, that would be more 
bimodal.  But I'm talking more about, eg, realizing in the middle of a 
conversation that you're talking to a crypto-fascist who puts up a good veneer 
at first, then reveals their fascism over the course of the conversation.  When 
I realize it, I switch, either to something that will completely alienate the 
person, or to language that makes me sound more like a fascist, depending on 
how I feel at the time.

Marcus' idea of a an interpreter vs. languages closer to the bare metal is, I 
think, akin to Nick's idea of imaginary vs. factual.  And the gist is solid.  
There's a very high overhead interpreting through many layers of abstraction or 
entertaining imaginary worlds through the suspension of disbelief.  It's a 
luxury we can't always afford.  But both assume there exists a bare metal.  I'm 
a constructivist, for the most part, and believe all our languages are 
interpreted and there really is no such thing as a natural, close to the metal, 
machine code.  There are no linguistic or cognitive facts, only action facts.  
And this may be closer to what you're trying to say, because that means that we 
are always interacting through an interpreter, albeit sometimes many layers out 
vs. only a few layers out.



On 11/07/2016 08:05 PM, Steven A Smith wrote:
> I guess I already feel I have to "code switch" all the time already...  I 
> have to speak a pidgin of Left/Right/Green/Libertarian/Anarchist just to 
> communicate with my friends and colleagues on these matters.  I understand 
> and agree that in world D, the emergent patois will be much less 
> familiar/comfortable than the one I have now and that in world H, it will be 
> much more familiar, less abrupt of a change.  I guess I assumed that Agent G 
> and agent M were more like me in this regard than maybe they are.

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