No expert on the NDP.  They tried to be very inclusive. (e.g., instituting
bilingual highway signs that turned off many small c conservative Ontarians,
who saw it as a waste of tax dollars and an unnecesary bow to political
correctness).

 They tried to be very "turn the other cheek"  So when the corporate lobby
attacked and attacked and attcked:  The NDP continued to govern.  I think
many saw NDP silence as consent.  The last straw was when the NDP shot
itself in the foot by distancing itself from the trade union movement.  

The NDP could, should have run a broad education campaign talking about
public space  vs. private space, and dealt with what only an NDP govt could
do vis a vis the citizens of Ontario.  Instead they saw the polls dropping
and cozied up to the middle and got friendly with corporations.

Who knows?  Maybe it all boils down to wide ties vs. narrow ties.  Public
tastes change.

arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:42 AM
To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Crumble and despair in our education policy


Arthur,

The NDP - even back when I lived in Ontario - seemed to losing its 
relevance. But, what has happened to Social Credit. As I recall, they ran 
excellent provincial governments in the west - noted for their integrity.

However, their philosophy could only operate at national level, and 
Canadians kept them out of any country-wide success.

Harry

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Arthur wrote:

>Who is Mike Harris now working for? The Frasier
>Institute  as a Senior Fellow! By chance I happen to have a copy of the
>institute's five year plan for 1998 - 2002. When I can find some time
>I'll share the 'hi'-lites with you and the list.
>
>AC,
>
>As Adlai Stevenson said, "it hurts too much to laugh and I am too old to
>cry"
>
>Still, the people seem to be going along with this stuff.  In Canada we
have
>a left alternative in the NDP and they seem to have a dwindling
>constituency.  The fashion or flavour of the day still seems to be that the
>government can do nothing right and the market can never be wrong.  Fasten
>your seatbelts as we approach that well known wall called reality.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mcandreb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:44 AM
>To: Ed Weick; Brian McAndrews
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Crumble and despair in our education policy
>
>
>Ed wrote:
>And yes, Snobolen also demonstrated that you can't put the small
>business mind in charge of major social programs and expect good
>results.
>
>Hi Ed,
>I began teaching in 1972. In 1989 I was seconded from my school board to
>teach full time at Queen's University, Faculty of Education. Due to
>budget cuts in 1991, the faculty could only afford me half time so I
>taught in a local high school each morning and at the faculty each
>afternoon from 1991 to 1999. I was in an Ontario school for the first
>four years of the neo-con regime.(1995-1999).I experienced  first hand(
>just like your first hand experience in northern native communities-
>['first hand' is a helluva lot more informative than reading about it in
>the Financial Times, agree?] It affects(sic) you more, like it did
>Father Jim who I wrote about recently re the Innu- )THE CRISIS BEING
>CREATED AND IMPLEMENTED
>Now back to your quote at the top of this post. Snobelen and his
>successors as Ministers of Education are only the pawns. And the agenda
>of the brains behind these pawns is not about small business . Margaret
>Thatcher's agenda represented the "Cancer Stage of Capitalism". Bush et
>al continue her work. Who is Mike Harris now working for? The Frasier
>Institute  as a Senior Fellow! By chance I happen to have a copy of the
>institute's five year plan for 1998 - 2002. When I can find some time
>I'll share the 'hi'-lites with you and the list.
>
>Take care,
>Brian


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