Chris:
 
> Do you know the total amount of all currently existing social programs ?
> (i.e. an estimate of what percentage of the $300bn this is)
 
Not offhand, but I intend to do some work on it when I have time.  And, yes indeed, the Swiss are always ahead of the game.  I've only been to Switzerland once, but was quite impressed.  Among other things, they gave us Calvinism. {: )
 
Ed

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From: "Christoph Reuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW Basic Income sites

> Ed Weick wrote:
> > A basic income would likely require a net budgetary expenditure, but what
> > should happen, and probably would happen is that many currently existing
> > social programs would be rolled into it.
>
> Do you know the total amount of all currently existing social programs ?
> (i.e. an estimate of what percentage of the $300bn this is)
>
>
> > A basic income program would have to look at all of the foregoing
> >initiatives > and programs to see how many of them could be rolled into a
> >single BI program.  > The design of a program would have to consider
> >several matters:
> >   a.. the value of a BI - most probably, low income cut-offs adjusted for
> > family size and location (rural/urban etc.) would come into play here;
> >  b.. eligibility: a governing principle would very likely be that anyone
> > having an income higher than the established LICO values would not be
> > eligible;
> >  c.. the extent to which a BI might consist of a direct payment versus
> > something like a negative income  tax;
> >  d.. the possibilities of making the BI, or aspects of it, premium based;
> >  e.. making recipients feel that a BI is something they get as an
> > entitlement because they are a part of a good and caring society;
> >  f.. yet making sure people didn't cheat because some inevitably will;
> >  g.. etc.
> > As the foregoing suggests, I see an BI not as something everyone would get,
> > but as a top-up for people and families who cannot afford a relatively
> > decent lifestyle in a wealthy country.
>
> Thanks Ed.  It seems that the more thought people put into this, the more
> their proposal moves away from the GBI proposed at the BI Canada website,
> towards the Swiss solution I described.  Duh. ;-)
>
> Chris
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